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heading7593 04-05-2006 01:32 PM

Question
 
I want to make a Dule engine bomber stle plane what is the best way to do this and how much a load can they carry? Coast has to be high to right?

bubbagates 04-05-2006 01:40 PM

RE: Question
 
I'm not sure I understand what you are asking. More detail would be great

heading7593 04-05-2006 01:42 PM

RE: Question
 
I want to build a plane with 2 engines like a old b42 style. I want to know how to go about biulding it. and how much it will cost and the load it can carry.

Scar 04-05-2006 01:50 PM

RE: Question
 


ORIGINAL: heading7593

I want to build a plane with 2 engines like a old b42 style. I want to know how to go about biulding it. and how much it will cost and the load it can carry.
The Society of Automotive Engineers (SAE) has an annual lift contest for students. They build planes specifically for payload and a specific flight path. You might want to check with them on the student competition results.

The planes they design are of little interest to most folks who frequent these forums. We're interested in building, or our flying, and not so much in adding weight to our models.

Dr1Driver 04-05-2006 01:51 PM

RE: Question
 
"I want to make a Dule engine bomber stle plane what is the best way to do this and how much a load can they carry? Coast has to be high to right?"

If I translate this correctly, you mean, "I want to make a dual engine bomber-style plane. What is the best way to do this and how much of a load can they carry? Cost has to be high, too. Right?"

If that's correct, then the answers to your questions are:

1. The best way is to buy a kit of the model you want to build, then build it.
2. You can increase the load until it can no longer fly. Then you have a dual engine bomber-style car.
3. Yes, cost will be high.

Dr.1

agexpert 04-05-2006 01:56 PM

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Do you want it to look like a real airplane? and...do you want to be able to drop dummy bombs?

If so, look in the scale forums for more information. Also, have you ever flown RC airplanes? A twin-engine warbird might be a bit out of your league for the time being.

Just from reading your questions, I would guess that you are a bit new to this stuff, but I could be wrong.

Good Luck,

Mark

heading7593 04-05-2006 01:56 PM

RE: Question
 
How much would it take to lift 10-15 pounds

agexpert 04-05-2006 02:02 PM

RE: Question
 


ORIGINAL: Dr1Driver

1. The best way is to buy a kit of the model you want to build, then build it.
2. You can increase the load until it can no longer fly. Then you have a dual engine bomber-style car.
3. Yes, cost will be high.

Dr.1
I LOVE number 2...LMAO

bruce88123 04-05-2006 02:02 PM

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10-15 pounds? What are you, a terrorist?

Assuming you are on the level. Assuming you are new to flying.
1. It will be very expensive
2. It will be very big.
3. It will fly once if you are lucky, but not very far. [:@]

Dr1Driver 04-05-2006 02:05 PM

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"How much would it take to lift 10-15 pounds"

That's easy. 10-15 pounds of lift.

Dr.1

bruce88123 04-05-2006 02:05 PM

RE: Question
 
Check out this post too guys:
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=4128108

agexpert 04-05-2006 02:07 PM

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10-15 lbs could be done, but you are talking about a pretty expensive proposition. I have heard of a Kadet Senior, (kit built), that lifted 14 lbs, and I have seen some pretty impressive 'lift-planes' designed especially for lifting, but dropping that much weight will significantly alter your CG and likely make the plane un-flyable for a beginner.

Do you know how to fly RC airplanes?

What, exactly, are you trying to accomplish?

(I smell a troll)

bubbagates 04-05-2006 02:09 PM

RE: Question
 

Check out this post too guys:
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=4128108
Troll in progress

Dr1Driver 04-05-2006 02:11 PM

RE: Question
 
"I want to build a plane with 2 engines like a old b42 style."

Now you're really in trouble. The only reference I find to a B-42 is a single rear engine plane with counter-rotating props. To put another engine on this plane would not be scale.

Dr.1

bruce88123 04-05-2006 02:14 PM

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It would probably cost in the area of $1000.00+ for the plane and the Heli would be much-much more. And both will crash on the first flight if you have no experience in these type of models. PERIOD.
So what grade are you in? High school yet? Fat bank account?

Dr1Driver 04-05-2006 02:16 PM

RE: Question
 
"10-15 pounds? What are you, a terrorist?"

That's ben Laden's pilot brother, ben Wing Loading.

Dr.1

bubbagates 04-05-2006 02:19 PM

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ORIGINAL: Dr1Driver

"10-15 pounds? What are you, a terrorist?"

That's ben Laden's pilot brother, ben Wing Loading.

Dr.1
:D[X(][sm=thumbup.gif]

Dr1Driver 04-05-2006 02:22 PM

RE: Question
 
What heli? Did I miss something?

Dr.1

bubbagates 04-05-2006 02:25 PM

RE: Question
 
Bruce posted this a few posts back

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=4128108

Same person asking basically the same thing about a heli

I say troll myself

bruce88123 04-05-2006 02:51 PM

RE: Question
 
Aside from being a terrible speller, I believe he is dyslexic.

The plane he is asking about must be a B-24 bomber which is a twin.

elenasgrumpy 04-05-2006 03:27 PM

RE: Question
 


ORIGINAL: Dr1Driver

"10-15 pounds? What are you, a terrorist?"

That's ben Laden's pilot brother, ben Wing Loading.

Dr.1

That's just too funny!![sm=lol.gif][sm=thumbup.gif][sm=thumbup.gif][sm=thumbup.gif]

Spitfire222 04-05-2006 05:45 PM

RE: Question
 

ORIGINAL: bruce88123

Aside from being a terrible speller, I believe he is dyslexic.

The plane he is asking about must be a B-24 bomber which is a twin.
No, its actually a 4-engined high-wing, long range, heavy bomber.

The B-25 and B-26, however, are twin-engined medium bombers.

redfox435cat 04-05-2006 06:34 PM

RE: Question
 
the guys obviously clueless about the hobby. no offense but it kinda sad people won't just come out and say. I don't know anything about models can I get the biggest baddest thing I can think of

the heli you want to build is gonna cost you about 5-6 grand
the twin bomb you want to build to lift the kind of weight you wanna lift is gonna cost at least 6 grand more like 10

either one you'd better learn how to fly first, the if that guy can do I can do it I can do it just doesn't work in this hobby. it is learned. get a trainer and join a club and go through the motions of learning to fly, after 3-4 years of flying and 4-5 single engine kits you might be able to think about taking a project like this on

heading7593 04-05-2006 09:11 PM

RE: Question
 
Thanks guys for your info. I it really helped. I have always had a fasanatioin with flying rcs and i just want a cool one. I have another questono though how far can you get your plane to go before your transmition goes out of range. can you get them to go over a mile. Not that you could see it but it would be cool. And which is a good larner plane than

carrellh 04-05-2006 09:31 PM

RE: Question
 
Any plane on this page would be a good beginner plane
>> Link deleted. It brought up all planes rather than "ARF Trainers" <<

As far as distance, if you cannot see it you cannot control it. Flying beyond the line of sight has potential legal issues.

striderjg 04-05-2006 11:52 PM

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Wow, so u mean I could have started with this rather then my pt40

http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXX412&P=0 ;)

I think u got the wrong link carrell:)
-John

bruce88123 04-06-2006 06:58 AM

RE: Question
 
Rule of thumb with most "standard" radios is that if YOU can see it, you are in range. Of course you may not be able to tell what it is doing because it is so far away nor make it back to the field. There are other radios (park flyer type) that do not have this kind of range. You need to buy the correct type for the plane you are flying. There is very seldom a reason for flying at the extreme ranges.

heading7593 04-06-2006 10:55 AM

RE: Question
 
How far dose thoes cams go

RCKen 04-06-2006 11:08 AM

RE: Question
 
Ok, I'm going to step in here. Some of the questions that are being asked are starting to be very suspicious. I would ask that you take a few minutes and let us know what you're wanting to do in this hobby, and maybe a little bit to explain these questions that you have asked. If not I'm going to close down this thread. If these are legitimate questions the RCU members that frequent this forum will gladly answer your questions.

I apologize if this action upsets you in any way, but in the wake of September 11th most people get a little leery of questions such as those that you are asking.

Ken

bruce88123 04-06-2006 11:37 AM

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ORIGINAL: heading7593

How far dose thoes cams go
OK now, the English is getting so bad that I have no idea what you are asking. Take your time typing and use spell check. Then re-read your post to see if it makes any sense before sending it please. Otherwise I, for one, will have to give up on this thread.

Do you have a viable excuse for such bad English, spelling and typing?

bubbagates 04-06-2006 11:52 AM

RE: Question
 


ORIGINAL: RCKen

Ok, I'm going to step in here. Some of the questions that are being asked are starting to be very suspicious. I would ask that you take a few minutes and let us know what you're wanting to do in this hobby, and maybe a little bit to explain these questions that you have asked. If not I'm going to close down this thread. If these are legitimate questions the RCU members that frequent this forum will gladly answer your questions.

I apologize if this action upsets you in any way, but in the wake of September 11th most people get a little leery of questions such as those that you are asking.

Ken
I for one am also curious, between his other posts about large and quiet helicopters and wanting to know what it will take for a plane to haul around 15 or more pounds and be a bomber, curious about max distance and now what appears to be on board camera's. I see this as someone wanting to find a way to pilot something for a long distance that is capable of dropping 15 pounds of something. If that does not work then it has to be a helicopter that is very quiet. I find that going from a bomber type aircraft that he knows is going to be noisy to the quietest helicopter somewhat unusual when you piece it with all of the other questions and how they were presented.

If I am wrong then I'll be the second to apologize but it's time he comes clean and explains what he is really wanting to do. I for one am not going to answer anything else until he does and you can bet I will be reading his other posts carefully

bruce88123 04-06-2006 12:05 PM

RE: Question
 
Other threads he is in.

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_41...tm.htm#4131936

and

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_41...tm.htm#4129798


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