Sig Somethin Extra help!
 

I am in the process of putting my sig something extra and I was wondering if there were any hard parts that I should know about. Also I have a o.s 40 la engine , how would i go about making it fit with the needle in the way. Tips would be helpful for other things too. thanks

-Jordan

Sig Somethin Extra help!
 

It's an ARF by the way.

-Jordan

Sig Somethin Extra help!
 

How do you put the the rods that connect the elevator to the rudder fin. The ones with the white plastic things on the ends of them. I forgot the name of them sorry. thanks

-Jordan

Sig Somethin Extra help!
 

The 40 LA will be a little weak for the Somethin Extra. If you are a beginner, this plane will be a little much for you. On the needle valve, unscrew it and remove it, leave the housing body on place. You should be able to now fit the engine in place. Visualize now where the valve will stick out the side and drill a hole large enough for it to fit through easily. You will have to seal the exposed wood (epoxy, white paint or both). It looks much better than cutting a huge U shaped gouge out of your new plane. As with all ARF's, a must is to re-iron and seal all the covering edges and overlaps. Use finishing epoxy in the engine compartment, anywhere fuel and oil will touch. The landing gear mounting area is weak and the gear will rip off in a not so nice landing. Added angle bracing and epoxy on the inside will help.
Have fun with it, I hope you have a computer radio, if you do dial in at least 60% expo for the ailerons and elevator. Go easy on the control throws also. Hope this helps.

Jeff
http://www.angelfire.com/wa/JeffMDuffield/rcplanes.html

Sig Somethin Extra help!
 

Sorry but I'm really new and some of the stuff you wrote i barely understand. I wish I could have had a pro help me build this thing its annoying. Also I know to put the throw on low rate.

-Jordan
(5 th day and still have a while to go on the s.e.)

Sig Somethin Extra help!
 

Here is a picture of Mine, hope this helps. This is what I mean about a hole for the needle valve to go through. Some people cut out a huge U shaped section of the fuselage to accomodate the needle valve, real ugly. Anytime you cut into the wood, you need to seal it from the fuel and oil. ARF's will fall apart fast if you don't seal the edges of the covering. If you protect it from the oil, it will last much longer. I will be glad to help you with other questions as they come up.
What radio do you have?
Have you soloed with a trainer type plane?

Jeff

Sig Somethin Extra help!
 

but the 40 LA isn't rear needle is it? :confused:

SUMPTHIN EXTRA
 

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The 40 La is a rear needle but that does not make any difference as far as how you penetrate the side of the fuse. just the location. Second make sure you don't use the rubber band method of attaching the wings. They BREAK,.we use plastic wire ties and then snip them off, REALLY epoxy the hooks into the wings well and make sure you glue the rear wing dowel in well. I agree that the 4o LA is woefully inadequate for this plane. I have a 80 GK Saito in mine. Maybe a little much but balanced well and has unlimited vertical. I think from the sound of your questions that this plane might be a little too much for you at this point.

The DiBo :spinnyeye

Sig Somethin Extra help!
 

The Somethin' Extra is a huge leap for someone who is "really new". I really don't want you to get discouraged but go find someone at your local club field to give you a hand. The other thing is, did your local hobby shop recommend this plane to you? If so, my recommendation is to take it back to them and get into a trainer aircraft. Yeah, I know, a little more subdued than the Somethin' Extra but you'll be better off for now.

Sig Somethin Extra help!
 

I've got a few comments.

Please be sure you secure the small wooden wings dowel in very securely. If that thing begins to float around it will slide out the side and you will loose your plane. Pure and simple. I learned the hard way.

Also, do not fly the SE yet. Get yourself a trainer or else you've just wasted $200 on that brand new SE. There is no way a newbie can handle that plane without knowing what he is doing. Get a trainer, get an instructor, and save the SE for when you know what you are doing. I can't stress this enough, you will crash and destroy that plane if you fly it. :drowning:

Sig Somethin Extra help!
 

Ok guys just to let you know I had a Hobbico Superstar Select already. I learned I soloed on it in about 2 or so days (maybe 3). They said I was a very fast learner. I asked them (local club guys) about the S.E. they just said to put control throws to low rate and I should be fine. I was already doing all the basic aerobatics with the trainer. I could take off and land the first time I flew the superstar just to let u know. Simulators on the computer help a lot. thanks

-Jordan

TOC
 

Gee

At this rate by next year you will be ready for T.O.C.
The DiBo :spinnyeye

Sig Somethin Extra help!
 

Thanks for letting us know. I feel completely different about it now ;) I misunderstood and thought the SE was your first plane.

Sig Somethin Extra help!
 

tip on flying the SE. you want the ailerons on LOW rate they are real touchy. as for flying it. it likes to go slow. you can blast around at full power but the plane like to slow down and fly nose high.(you might need high rates for this to work well) I could fly mine (powered by a OS .50) at about a foot off the ground inverted for the length of the runway real slow.

when you get better with it you can up the control throws and move the CG back and it will do alot of the 3d stuff. I could hover mine with not too much problem and do stupid things like split-S's under 30 feet high. again a .40 might be a bit under powered for extreme stuff (might not hover it) but for flying around and getting used to a higher performance plane it should do OK

I traded mine in part for a Dazzler. Im begining to miss it :( might have to get a kit some other time.

Sig Somethin Extra help!
 

Sorry if i sounded like i was bragging. How do you get the elevators to work after you hinged both of the elevators on the stabalizer. I mean does it require on servo or two. Is there two push rods for both elevators. thanks

-Jordan

Elevator question
 

The elevators are joined together with one thick shaped wire, and should only need one control horn on one side to control both elevators. The plans and instructions should be fairly clear on this. Be sure to use low rates on everything with this plane. It is a jump up in required skill level from your trainer, regardless of how well you were flying it. If you take your time, let someone else do the initial flightcheck and flight. These planes are a blast to fly. Have fun!! My 2 cents.

Sig Somethin Extra help!
 

if you forgot to put the joining wire, be ready to cut your hinges....

Sig Somethin Extra help!
 

And then what do I do after I cut the hinges , like step by step. Sorry I am asking so many question but the manual is very hard to understand to me. Plus this is my first plane I have had to put together. Is this what the elevator wire looks like......

Sig Somethin Extra help!
 

i buided the kit of the somethin extra, i never mounted the arf, on your pic, i can see that you glued your inges already, but you forgot to glue the wire. I don't no if other friends on the forum have a kind of magic solution, but to me the most simple way to go back to normal, is to cut the hinges with a xacto, install the wire, go to LHS, buy SIG easy hinges, cut new hinges slots and reglue....

Sig Somethin Extra help!
 

NOW PLEASE READ YOUR ASSEMBLY MANUAL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
the SIG instructions booklet are really well done !!

elevator problems
 

Looks like you might have too much hinge gap as well. When you cut them, and install the elevator joiner as per the instructions, try to close the gap a little more. If you can't figure out how to do all this, email me direct at [email protected] I have put a couple of these birds together. I will attach a pic of this exact elevator assembly that I just happen to have laying around.....LOL

Re: elevator problems
 

I agree that is too much hinge gap. Especially on the right stab.

I remember thinking how well the SE manual was written at the time I put mine together. I'm surprised your having problems.

Sig Somethin Extra help!
 

You all keep saying how easy it is but I dont see how(keep in mind this is first time with arf). I wish they had picture for every major assembly. They need picture with labels for each little part that they used for that individual step.

-Jordan

Sig Somethin Extra help!
 

Ok, As I told you, I builded some SE but all kit version. Because I already made other ARF from SIG, I am sure that the procedure to install the wire is in the instruction booklet.
I am sure that a a friend on the forum who have a SE ARF booklet, will post a message or better a scan of the book with the procedure explained in a english better than mine.

I agree that your hinges gap are too big, and I hope your ailerons aren't like that. If they are, install a sealing tape or better, a strip of clear oracover.
If your rudder is already hinged also, be prepare to cut the hinges
because you won't be able to install the joined elevators with a hinged rudder (it's the case in the kit version, i am not sure for the ARF).

I think that a SE is a expensive stuff and that we must help you to corect your mistake, but you need to have a positive look on the wonderfull book you received with the plane.
You made a mistake, we can easily help you to correct it because it's not a dramatic one.
Before begining to work on a plane I always read the entire booklet and I don't begin to glue before I understand all the pictures and the entire assembly sequence.

Go backward, read completly the book, check all your previous work


this is my humble $ 0.00025 tip

Sig Somethin Extra help!
 

I've attatched a pic from the manual if you don't happen to have it.