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Jester241 12-08-2007 07:16 PM

Deadsticks
 
Which type of engine in your opinion results in the most deadsticks on average for rookie/intermediate pilots......A 4-stroke type engine or a 2-stroke type engine?

Basically,which type of engine ON AVERAGE is most known for quitting.

Mr67Stang 12-08-2007 07:22 PM

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...and for the last time. Ford is better! End of discussion:D

RCKen 12-08-2007 07:22 PM

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There is no difference between a 2 or a 4 stroke in regards to what deadsticks the most. The honest answer is that if you engine is properly tuned neither engine will be prone to deadstick. The two main causes of a deadstick condition is improper tuning and running out of fuel. The fuel part is easy, just use a timer and land before you run out of fuel. Your instructor should teach you to properly tune your engine while you are training.

Ken

2HI2C 12-08-2007 07:23 PM

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I Agree (FORD).

bigedmustafa 12-08-2007 07:26 PM

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Engines that haven't been broken in completely or correctly, engines that have plumbing issues with the tank and fuel lines, and engines that have the tuning or idle set incorrectly are the ones that dead stick the most. Whether they're 2-stroke or 4-stroke isn't really consenquential.

haasjj 12-08-2007 09:33 PM

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ORIGINAL: Mr67Stang

...and for the last time. Ford is better! End of discussion:D

I guess I'll buy a ford next time then but I like my Dodge Dakota.

Lomcevak Duck 12-08-2007 09:49 PM

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For the last time, MOPAR! Monokote, and OS 2 strokes.:D

Hossfly 12-08-2007 09:57 PM

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ORIGINAL: Jester241

Which type of engine in your opinion results in the most deadsticks on average for rookie/intermediate pilots......A 4-stroke type engine or a 2-stroke type engine?

Basically,which type of engine ON AVERAGE is most known for quitting.
You ask which TYPE of engine. Personally, I don't see much difference between 2 and/or 4 stroke. As RCKen and bigedmustafa say, it's mostly in the preparation, tuning and maintenance of the fuel system, not the type of engine.

For today's newbies, one big fault is that the internal combustion glow-plugged engine is still not the perfect science. So many that come to the field simply cannot grasp that there are certain deviations from the instructions which may have to happen. For example moving the Needle Valve just sometimes takes an act of congress to get accomplished. :) There are times such must be done, regardless of what someone wrote into a computer, printed it up, and sent it out with a mass production engine.

One additional item that causes many engines to quit early, especially on take-off, is that they are simply set too lean. Outside the racers, there is little need to attempt a take-off with less than 700 RPM down from peak using "rich" to get that reduction.

BTW a Dodge RAM with a Cumins Diesel takes all, and I used up a # of Fords, Mercurys, Pontiacs, a Firebird, Buicks, and a GMC. :D
Edit: Bad fingers!

Mr67Stang 12-08-2007 10:10 PM

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ORIGINAL: Lomcevak Duck

For the last time, MOPAR! Monokote, and OS 2 strokes.:D
Perhaps you missed where I said, "End of discussion.":D

Not that I would turn down a 1970 Challenger or Cuda;)

The Toolman 12-08-2007 10:13 PM

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Anything that starts out with the word Evolution on it....;)

Ronnie

reyn3545 12-08-2007 10:20 PM

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Ditto the Toolman's comments.. anything with an evolution is a crash waiting for time and space to cross paths.

acarter 12-08-2007 10:24 PM

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I agree, You have about a 50% chance of getting a good evo (IMHO):eek:

Austin

Mr67Stang 12-08-2007 10:25 PM

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I had a student pilot with the Evolution .45 PTS engine and we never had a problem with it. On the other hand I have an Evolution 35 GT gasser the jury is still out on while I trouble shoot it. Could be rookie error on my part being my first gasoline powered engine... Hmm something to think about there;)

sw1241 12-08-2007 10:42 PM

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for sure FORD, but my 91 2 stroke and my 91 four stroke, both magnums, neither has had a flameout in years, after being broken in

jship 12-08-2007 11:03 PM

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Try a Evolution 1.00 if You want to see a crash waiting for a place to happen!:)
john

seemefly_1 12-08-2007 11:21 PM

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CHEVY thats my type of car

RCKen 12-08-2007 11:27 PM

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Ok, I'll be the true oddball


Nissan!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D:D:D:D

But I can cram a bunch of planes in it!!!! ;)

Ken

bruce88123 12-08-2007 11:40 PM

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I want a MOPAR!:)

troposcuba 12-09-2007 12:19 AM

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how about ford and chevy?

Hossfly 12-09-2007 12:19 AM

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ORIGINAL: RCKen

Ok, I'll be the true oddball


Nissan!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D:D:D:D

But I can cram a bunch of planes in it!!!! ;)

Ken

Hey Ken, You sure do pack the stuff in there. QUESTION: HOW do you keep that case and other items from falling off when you are driving back and forth to the flying field? :D
I could understand driving back because you may not have so many planes when coming BACK from the field.

Oh well here goes another post to the moderator's axe. :D:D:D

RCKen 12-09-2007 12:24 AM

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ORIGINAL: Hossfly



ORIGINAL: RCKen

Ok, I'll be the true oddball


Nissan!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D:D:D:D

But I can cram a bunch of planes in it!!!! ;)

Ken

Hey Ken, You sure do pack the stuff in there. QUESTION: HOW do you keep that case and other items from falling off when you are driving back and forth to the flying field? :D
I could understand driving back because you may not have so many planes when coming BACK from the field.

Oh well here goes another post to the moderator's axe. :D:D:D

Hoss,
:D:D:D

That pic was taken while charging of course.

I usually back my truck into the garage to load it, then I back out and turn around, and then pull back into the garage as you see it in the picture and hook everything up to charge in my truck. One night I did leave a radio sitting on the bumper. Of course it fell off and broke both stick gimbals. Unfortunately I didn't find it till the next morning as I was getting ready to leave for the field. Wouldn't normally be a problem except I was getting ready to shoot video on a review, so I had to do a quick swap out of crystal in the receiver so I could get a new radio setup. And then had to reprogram the radio to set up the plane at the field. Always makes for fun when you're in a hurry!!! :eek:

Ken

Mr67Stang 12-09-2007 12:26 AM

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Troposcuba, You have shown very well the difference in power plants between the two brands:D

Alex7403 12-09-2007 01:32 AM

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Ken, it looks like a good day of RCing/flying! :D

Not chevy nor ford nor Nissan,

An Aircraft carrier. [8D]

That what I would say soon.

2HI2C 12-09-2007 08:26 AM

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troposcuba- You souped up that Chevy didn't ya.[X(]:D

summerwind 12-09-2007 09:12 AM

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:D:D:D:D


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