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KenWh 05-12-2008 02:32 PM

RE: Spread Spectrum Compatibility With Old Buddy Boxes
 
We have the same problem...

My son took his brand new DX6i to the local club Tuesday night for his first flight. The instructors were unable to get a JLine Quattro to act as a slave. The DX6i ran the servos fine, but when the training switch is pulled there is no response when the Quattro controls are used. The club experts were baffled, even one who had a DX7. Nearly an hour was spent twiddling with the settings (yes, we made sure the timer function was not connected to the training switch). Also, a second buddy box (also a Quattro) and cable were tried with no success.

The manual is unclear as to any settings that may need to be made, and only mentions that if you are using another DX6i, the settings must be the same.

We want to try again this Tuesday. Is there some secret to making this work?

bruce88123 05-12-2008 03:02 PM

RE: Spread Spectrum Compatibility With Old Buddy Boxes
 


ORIGINAL: KenWh

We have the same problem...

My son took his brand new DX6i to the local club Tuesday night for his first flight. The instructors were unable to get a JLine Quattro to act as a slave. The DX6i ran the servos fine, but when the training switch is pulled there is no response when the Quattro controls are used. The club experts were baffled, even one who had a DX7. Nearly an hour was spent twiddling with the settings (yes, we made sure the timer function was not connected to the training switch). Also, a second buddy box (also a Quattro) and cable were tried with no success.

The manual is unclear as to any settings that may need to be made, and only mentions that if you are using another DX6i, the settings must be the same.

We want to try again this Tuesday. Is there some secret to making this work?

Not sure about the DX6i but on the DX7 the trainer mode needs to be enabled seperate from the trainer switch. I'll check the manual in a sec.

bruce88123 05-12-2008 03:12 PM

RE: Spread Spectrum Compatibility With Old Buddy Boxes
 
Couldn't find that but did find:
MASTER
The transmitter can be used as a master but the slave transmitter must have the same programming (i.e. reverse,
travel adjust, dual rates, mixes, sub trims, etc.) as the master.

This tells me the Quatro can NOT be used. Hopefully someone will point out that I am wrong. Good luck.

Missileman 05-12-2008 05:23 PM

RE: Spread Spectrum Compatibility With Old Buddy Boxes
 

ORIGINAL: bruce88123

Couldn't find that but did find:
MASTER
The transmitter can be used as a master but the slave transmitter must have the same programming (i.e. reverse,
travel adjust, dual rates, mixes, sub trims, etc.) as the master.

This tells me the Quatro can NOT be used. Hopefully someone will point out that I am wrong. Good luck.
I hope there will be a simple answer. This is the first time I have seen a computer radio that requires another computer radio, programmed the same, to buddy box with. If this is true it will be very difficult for alot of new pilots to get hooked up with an instructor.

rlipsett 05-12-2008 06:00 PM

RE: Spread Spectrum Compatibility With Old Buddy Boxes
 
futab 9c computer radios can pass on mixing and dual rate capabilities to the slave but the switches to select these modes can onlybe selected on the master so that even a four channel radio may access these functions.

bruce88123 05-12-2008 06:13 PM

RE: Spread Spectrum Compatibility With Old Buddy Boxes
 


ORIGINAL: rlipsett

futab 9c computer radios can pass on mixing and dual rate capabilities to the slave but the switches to select these modes can onlybe selected on the master so that even a four channel radio may access these functions.
But we are not talking about a Futaba radio so irrelevant.

KenWh 05-12-2008 07:35 PM

RE: Spread Spectrum Compatibility With Old Buddy Boxes
 

ORIGINAL: bruce88123

Couldn't find that but did find:
MASTER
The transmitter can be used as a master but the slave transmitter must have the same programming (i.e. reverse,
travel adjust, dual rates, mixes, sub trims, etc.) as the master.

This tells me the Quatro can NOT be used. Hopefully someone will point out that I am wrong. Good luck.
I had always been led to believe that the programming had to match, so that when the trainer switch is pulled, the controls don't go crazy. I didn't guess that it would prevent any function whatsoever.

Which of course leads to the question: Which transmitters have the same programming as the DX6i, and can therefore be used as a slave? Only another DX6i, DX7, and a few JRs?


Missileman 05-12-2008 09:27 PM

RE: Spread Spectrum Compatibility With Old Buddy Boxes
 


ORIGINAL: KenWh

I had always been led to believe that the programming had to match, so that when the trainer switch is pulled, the controls don't go crazy. I didn't guess that it would prevent any function whatsoever.


In most other radios this is not true because most buddy boxes are not programmable. The buddy box only supplies stick input any special mixes, dual rates ect.. are done in the Master only. You only have to assure servo direction and trim switch settings.
It appears that Spektrum radios do it differently. A strike against them.

KenWh 05-14-2008 09:50 AM

RE: Spread Spectrum Compatibility With Old Buddy Boxes
 


ORIGINAL: KenWh

I had always been led to believe that the programming had to match, so that when the trainer switch is pulled, the controls don't go crazy. I didn't guess that it would prevent any function whatsoever.

Which of course leads to the question: Which transmitters have the same programming as the DX6i, and can therefore be used as a slave? Only another DX6i, DX7, and a few JRs?

I entered a request on the Spektrum website, and received an answer. It appears that the Spektrum DX6i can act as a master to any JR or Spektrum transmitter EXCEPT the JLine Quattro and JR Sport S400.

Hope this helps all of you coordinating training at your clubs!

Ken,

Thank you for your recent email. You are correct, the S400 also will not
buddy box with the DX6i. The DX6i will work with all other Spektrum and
JR transmitters.

I hope you find this information useful. If you should have any further
questions, please reply to this email or give us a call at
1-877-504-0233.

Thanks,
Matt "Mac" McCarty
Product Support Team Member

-Original Message-
From: kenwhipple

Comments: What units will work as a slave to a DX6i?

My son got a DX6i for his birthday, but when he took it to the club for
his first flight, the club experts were unable to get a JRline Quattro
to work as a buddy box. See
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=7487248

Should the Quattro be able to act as a slave to a DX6i? If not, please
provide a list of what will!


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