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Big M 06-30-2008 09:36 PM

Beginning in 3D flight
 
I am not new to rc planes i am just new to 3d flying so i need some help on figuring out which plane( 3D ) i should get next.It has to be a reasonable size (nothing huge) and electric unless it is a small nitro powered plane. These are some of the ones i have been looking at.
- Fliton mini extra 260
- Fliton mini edge 540
- EFlite mini pulse xt (not sure if it is completely 3D)
- Or any of your suggestions
Are any of these planes good, bad, ect.
Thanks for any suggestions:D

plugin 06-30-2008 11:05 PM

RE: Beginning in 3D flight
 
U-Can-Do 3D is one of the best 3D trainers out there. I think there is a .40 glow.

Nathan King 06-30-2008 11:12 PM

RE: Beginning in 3D flight
 


ORIGINAL: plugin

U-Can-Do 3D is one of the best 3D trainers out there. I think there is a .40 glow.
I will preface this with the fact that I've never flown a U-Can-Do, but I have heard from a reputable source that a 40 sized glow engine is not enough to hover it.

Big M 06-30-2008 11:30 PM

RE: Beginning in 3D flight
 
Yeah i have heard that also is a good plane but one of the main manuevers that i want to learn to do is hovering. But i will do more research on that plane but is there any comments on the above planes???
Thanks

joco1 06-30-2008 11:34 PM

RE: Beginning in 3D flight
 
would a 55ax be enough to hover good in a u can do 40 ?

Jetdesign 06-30-2008 11:51 PM

RE: Beginning in 3D flight
 
There are a bunch of UCD .40's at my club. Most of them have a Magnum .70 four stroke, one has a Magnum .91 four stroke, and one has a .46 two stroke (don't know brand). The two stroke is OK for easy flying, not for 3D, the .91 might be a little too much, but literally unlimited vertical.

People say really, really good things about that plane. It can float in without power from anywhere you can see it; lands very gently, flies easy, etc.

One guy says he wishes he got the .60 size. Most of them love the Magnum .70

ChuckW 07-01-2008 12:31 AM

RE: Beginning in 3D flight
 
You might want to ask the question in the 3D forum or the profile forum. 3D is a little advanced for a beginners discussion.

Having said that, get a 3D profile. Check out www.ohiomodelplanes.com or www.swanyshouse.com

The will outperform just about anything, you'll have an easier time doing it and they are tougher in my opinion.

playntraffic 07-01-2008 06:59 AM

RE: Beginning in 3D flight
 
I agree with Chuck. A profile is where you need to be with a 46-55 sized glow engine. They fly 3d much better than a full fuse because of the weight. The Mojo 40 would be excellent.
If you want to stay with Electric than the Funtana X Mini is a good choice. Why not start off with a foamy, dwfoamies.com? They are a lot of fun and are very durable when you flop one in from hovering low.

Witterings 07-01-2008 07:55 AM

RE: Beginning in 3D flight
 
Some electric suggestions are

Balsa
Extreme Flight - Extra, Yak or Edge
Precision Aerobatics - Extra 260, Katana or Addiction

Foam
Flash, Super Zoom or any of the MS Composit EPP's
Multiplex - Acromaster ot the Parkmaster which I'm not sure it's out there yet but is over here now.

The Fliton, I've looked at and considered them for a while and if I did get one would probably go for the Mini Edge but have heard quite a few comments on build quality / poor UC which has put me off.

Don't think the Mini Pulse is a 3D machine.

Personally I'd probably go for a foamie if it's a 1st 3D and probably the Acromaster as it's one of the toughest and will handle the most wind so can be an everyday flier although a number of people including myself seem to be suffering some motor mount vibration which can drive you nuts but think it's down to how well you glue the nose of the plane together on the build ansd the same with the motor mount as some don't suffer it at all, its' the one niggle on an otherwise excellent product.

Big M 07-01-2008 12:50 PM

RE: Beginning in 3D flight
 
I definately will consider the u-can-do and put a larger engine on it, the acromaster, and i do like the extreme flight planes but they seem expensive and they do not seem like a "begginer 3D" but they do look cool:eek: . I did some research on the flitons and it seems that the mini edge 540 isnt very good, but the mini extra 260 got very good reviews and positive comments.
Thanks for all the suggestions

Big M 07-01-2008 01:03 PM

RE: Beginning in 3D flight
 
Oh!!! i was looking at some edge 540s and i came across this one: http://www.raidentech.com/reded5402545.html
It looks cool but do you think it is any good?

playntraffic 07-01-2008 01:35 PM

RE: Beginning in 3D flight
 


ORIGINAL: Big M

Oh!!! i was looking at some edge 540s and i came across this one: http://www.raidentech.com/reded5402545.html
It looks cool but do you think it is any good?

Flying brick. Those planes have been sold out at Raidentech and Nitroplanes for a long time.

Here is some helpful advice. Learn to fly 3D using a lightweight plane. Look for a large thick wing and a large wing surface to weight ratio.

Profiles are not the prettiest, but they are good at 3d training. They are more stable in almost all manuvers because of the low wing loading. You can overpower them so that you have more than 2 / 1 power ratio.


Big M 07-01-2008 01:42 PM

RE: Beginning in 3D flight
 
Thanks for the info.

Fflier9 07-01-2008 03:01 PM

RE: Beginning in 3D flight
 
how about a foamie like the Eflite extra or one of the great planes flatouts?
They are great for learning 3d on and can be flown at a baseball diamond or something.

Fflier9 07-01-2008 03:03 PM

RE: Beginning in 3D flight
 
also inexpensive and easier to repair than a glow plane

Hypersprint 07-01-2008 03:18 PM

RE: Beginning in 3D flight
 
You should check out [link]http://www.3dhobbyshop.com/[/link]

Their name says it all

Rob

Big M 07-01-2008 03:28 PM

RE: Beginning in 3D flight
 
I went on to 3d hobbyshop and i really like the katana and yak. Do those fly well for beginning 3D flying.
Fflier9, that e-flight looks like a good starter and i really like the size and the price!!!
Thanks

Hypersprint 07-01-2008 05:56 PM

RE: Beginning in 3D flight
 
I have the 47" Extra 300 SHP so I am not sure of the flight characteristic's of the Katana and Yak but there are links at [link]http://3dhobbyshop.com[/link] that will take you to amother forum where the owner and a couple of the designers (that also happen to fly the full scale versions) hang out and can help you much better than I can

Rob

Big M 07-01-2008 07:46 PM

RE: Beginning in 3D flight
 
I would like to get my next bird up and running without spending more than 300.00(is there a website with discount electrics), that is why i am starting to be attracted to the foamies(E-Flight Extra 260 3D Profile).

Fflier9 07-02-2008 11:43 AM

RE: Beginning in 3D flight
 
hey Big M check this website out. If you really want to learn 3D on a budget you can look at these electronics.
http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/s...&ParentCat=192
for BL motor/ESC combo
http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/s...ec_Micro_Servo
for servos
http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/s..._20C_Lipo_pack
for lipo

I have put together a great planes flatouts foamie
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...outs&search=Go
with these exact products or less than $100 and it will do any 3D maneuver I ask of it.
Hope this helps.

Fflier9 07-02-2008 11:44 AM

RE: Beginning in 3D flight
 
I dont know why the top 3 links wont work you just have to copy and paste them without the **** after the www. part

Big M 07-06-2008 04:13 PM

RE: Beginning in 3D flight
 
That was a BIG help! Which do you think is better - the e-flight extra 260 or a great planes flatout(extra 300 or cap 580).
Thanks again for all the help!!!

Missileman 07-06-2008 05:04 PM

RE: Beginning in 3D flight
 
I have been real happy with my 90 size Hangar9 Showtime which is a great 3D plane and they do make a smaller electric version.

jacobgeorge 07-07-2008 03:04 PM

RE: Beginning in 3D flight
 
I have heard that the park flyer gee bee 3D is a good starter so you might want to look at that plane. Has anyone else heard good things about this plane??? It comes RTF and ARF which is another advantage for a begginer.

Fflier9 07-07-2008 08:33 PM

RE: Beginning in 3D flight
 
Big M
I would definitely say that the GP flatout series would be the better buy in your case
1. They are half the price, but virtually the same thing,
2. Replacement parts are cheaper (trust me, you're going to be making mistakes.)
Hope this helps.


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