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ES CONTROL 02-05-2010 06:59 PM

How Do I Stop Shaking
 
First flight I always shake. Family reunions I shake , flying a plane I do not own, I shake.

This spring I will fly a new U Can Do 60 . And a plane I do not own. And my biggest problem is going to be staring me in the face. ( Quivering thumbs )

Am I alone with this problem ?

Is their any advice you could give me?

After 2 flights, I am back to my self again.<br type="_moz" />

colin g 02-05-2010 07:03 PM

RE: How Do I Stop Shaking
 
a shot of whiskey did no-one any harm!.just relax dude.

CGRetired 02-05-2010 07:05 PM

RE: How Do I Stop Shaking
 
You never really stop shaking.. butterflys in the gut. Every time I go out, the first flight is always one of those. I just launch, orbit a while, do a few real basic maneuvers, and then, after a few minutes, I go for a landing.

Things seem to calm down after that first landing, ya know? But, you really never lose that. Some will say it goes away with experience, and confidence, but, it's always there, just a little bit. You never want to break your new plane.

CGr.

Mr67Stang 02-05-2010 07:11 PM

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CGR is spot on. Take the plane up nice and easy get a safe altitude and just do some basic flying around. If you have this apt for the shakes this bad you wouldn't break into a knife edge 2 ft off the deck and climb out. So take it easy on that first go round and get a landing in.

That being said, you don't want the shakes to go away. When they go away you will move to bigger, badder, meaner, faster to get them back. That rush is at the heart of the addiction that is R/C Aeromodeling. Guess how I know;)

CGRetired 02-05-2010 07:15 PM

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Oh, how true, Stang!! ;)

CGr.

richg99 02-05-2010 07:21 PM

RE: How Do I Stop Shaking
 
Look at it this way....some of the Academy Award winners still throw up before acting a scene... Nervousness is NOT limited to r/c airplane flying. Rich

flyinrog 02-05-2010 07:38 PM

RE: How Do I Stop Shaking
 
either drink more there or drink less the night before or see your Dr..tell him you have some anxiety issues and ask what he would recommend (they love that) tell him a friend at the flying field uses lorazipan...they love to give out pills....I get kneeknocking and twittery thumbs...Rog
but the others are right just float around a bit and bring it in for a slow landing..

oldtyme 02-05-2010 07:42 PM

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Just one bit of advice...........DO NOT DRINK AND FLY!!! It is against the AMA safety code and a bad idea. Like in real aviation.......8 hours from bottle to throttle.

tessmar 02-05-2010 07:49 PM

RE: How Do I Stop Shaking
 
ES Control
I have raced vintage sports cars for many years. I still get nervous sitting on the grid, but I have developed techniques that do help me and might be of value to you:
1. Breathe! sounds silly, but taking long, deep breaths and slowly exhaling every few minutes helps settle me down
2. Develop a routine and stick to it. I always put on the gloves, helmet, etc. in the pits and, except for the shoulder belts, tighten the straps before going up to the grid. I do this every time without exception. No last minute changes, no "uh oh, I forgot.." moments
3. Decompress. Think about what muscles are tense and consciously try to get them to relax
4. Think. I remind myself that I can do this, and have for decades. I do belong here even though it is a crazy way to spend my time. Know that as soon as you actually get going ( for me it is the second the wheels actually start to move) the nerves go away and you'll be fine.

CGRetired 02-05-2010 08:10 PM

RE: How Do I Stop Shaking
 
All great advice.. except for the drink part.. but I believe that was a bit of levity.

It's all part of the hobby and good for the initial cautions and preparations for flight. It will make you more aware of pre-flight, then more cautions of not overdue'ing it when you start out on flying day. Perfectly normal, in other words.

It tends to lessen as the day goes buy, until you over-compensate for that to-severe coordinated turn, and it starts to head in the wrong direction or straight down.. then you correct it, breath, land it, and sit down... all perfectly normal.. all perfectly normal.. all perfectly normal... all.................. :D

CGr

gsoav8r 02-05-2010 08:14 PM

RE: How Do I Stop Shaking
 


ORIGINAL: tessmar

ES Control
I have raced vintage sports cars for many years. I still get nervous sitting on the grid, but I have developed techniques that do help me and might be of value to you:
1. Breathe! sounds silly, but taking long, deep breaths and slowly exhaling every few minutes helps settle me down
2. Develop a routine and stick to it. I always put on the gloves, helmet, etc. in the pits and, except for the shoulder belts, tighten the straps before going up to the grid. I do this every time without exception. No last minute changes, no ''uh oh, I forgot..'' moments
3. Decompress. Think about what muscles are tense and consciously try to get them to relax
4. Think. I remind myself that I can do this, and have for decades. I do belong here even though it is a crazy way to spend my time. Know that as soon as you actually get going ( for me it is the second the wheels actually start to move) the nerves go away and you'll be fine.
I'll second all that. Good procedures are huge and its amazing how three deeeep breaths can calm you down as you taxi the plane out.

Another thing I find benificial also, thou maybe in an indirect way, is do your homework. Ive found that if I have to tinker on a plane at the field before I can fly it, I start wondering what else I forgot. So again procedure is helpful. If possible work on planes at home and fly at the field.

Cheers.

Gray Beard 02-05-2010 08:25 PM

RE: How Do I Stop Shaking
 
I lost the shakes a long time ago and to tell the truth I really miss them, that's part of the fun. Then it happen this week, I took out my first three channel electric plane for the maiden flight and all those old feelings came rushing back to me, I had more fun then I have had in years!! Enjoy them as long as you can, when they left me I did have to go to bigger planes to find the feeling again. When I take up someone elses plane I go through it like it was my own and make sure all the controls are correct and there aren't any loose parts, check the CG to make sure it's where I like a plane on it's first flight. I want all the trims to be centered on the radio so I know I have enough trim if needed. I go through someone elses plane even better then I do my own and I'm very strict with myself on plane set up. Just enjoy the feeling. Funny, my hands never shook as much as my knees????:D

Campgems 02-05-2010 09:25 PM

RE: How Do I Stop Shaking
 
Gene, those little planes are more demanding than the big ones arn't they. Isalvaged a foamy pattern, including ailerons, and set it to my son's, then when I got out there, we put it together and checked things out and took it out to the local field. One of the guys there took it up and after some balancing, I gave it a go. I couldn't believe how dumb I felt at the controls. I finally hollered out. "someone come thake this thing before I kill someone" Way more twitchy than my old 4*60. I'll stick with big for now. Talk about shaking.

The easy flying is good advise. I've found that when I screw up a landing approach or do something dumb, the shakes come back quickly. I put it up high and do some lazy figure 8"s to get thing settled down again and then go for the approach again. Of course, I can't tell now if it the shakes from nerves or old age that is getting to me. They are both about the same at times.

Don

Oberst 02-05-2010 09:44 PM

RE: How Do I Stop Shaking
 
I still get the jitters when flying season starts in the Spring for the first few flights. I get the jitters and my heart pounds hard when I maiden a new plane that I've put a lot of work and time into it.

And most of all, when I fly at a big events and about 1,000 people including "Big Shots from AMA" [:-]:D are watching me fly. But other than that my knees don't shake and my jitters stop all in between flying season.

Here's a good one, LOL

I remember the day I first maidened a Warbird at my Club about 6 years ago. My knees started shaking, I could feel my heart thumping in my throat and my hands were all sweaty. It was so bad I asked the Vice who was standing next to me to take over for a few minutes until I got my composure back. :eek: Today I just fly and so far when ever I get the jitters real bad, I say a silent prayer and ask that I don't faint!

So yea, it's normal, LOL you're OK!


Pete

Gray Beard 02-05-2010 09:57 PM

RE: How Do I Stop Shaking
 


ORIGINAL: Campgems

Gene, those little planes are more demanding than the big ones arn't they. I salvaged a foamy pattern, including ailerons, and set it to my son's, then when I got out there, we put it together and checked things out and took it out to the local field. One of the guys there took it up and after some balancing, I gave it a go. I couldn't believe how dumb I felt at the controls. I finally hollered out. ''someone come thake this thing before I kill someone'' Way more twitchy than my old 4*60. I'll stick with big for now. Talk about shaking.

The easy flying is good advise. I've found that when I screw up a landing approach or do something dumb, the shakes come back quickly. I put it up high and do some lazy figure 8''s to get thing settled down again and then go for the approach again. Of course, I can't tell now if it the shakes from nerves or old age that is getting to me. They are both about the same at times.

Don
My little gasser, watter, is more of a hand full then a 40% stunt plane!! I had it set up for left stick rudder and kept right sticking for the ailerons, bad choice of sticks, no ailerons!!! I changed the controls to single stick on the right so it should be easier to control from now on. I flew all day yesterday but I needed a prop for the little guy. Why would that be??:) I'm sold on these little planes. Just beginning the build on the Dirty Birdy, templates first then glue!. Sure are a lot of blocks of wood to shape and sand in this Blue Jay kit!!! Looks like a fun build.;)

TruBlu02 02-05-2010 10:50 PM

RE: How Do I Stop Shaking
 
I used to get that feeling before flying a new plane but it really isn't an issue any more. I long ago accepted the fact that I WILL crash airplanes from time to time, and Inever fly anything I can AFFORD to crash. I am also a very careful builder and flyer. When you are confident you have done everything to make your plane safe and sound alot of the nerves tend to go away. I like feeling confident when i fly so I am glad I don't get nervous anymore, because for me it detracts from the joy of flying. I have no problem flying someones else's plane either. One thing I like to do when I have been out of flying forawhile is get out my Tower hobbies trainer. I have very little invested in it so if I destroyed it I wouldn't really care. I will take it out and run 5 or 6 tanks through it to reconnect my brain and my thumbs. I would rather dumb thumb my $80 Trainer than my $1000 aerobatic plane.

Take some deap breaths and have fun!! :D

oldtyme 02-05-2010 11:09 PM

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Campgems..........you are absolutely right about the little ones being more demanding than the big "real" ones. I'm a full scale pilot......not current but nonetheless a full scale pilot.........and I used to hear that all the time. Well, I got my real wings and it was much easier to fly the real thing than the little ones. Probably because you're sitting in the big ones and you have a feel for what is going on first hand. One of the guys in our club used to be.........before he retired........an airforce jet jock and finally when he got out, a 747 test pilot and he still ferries 747's all over the world. One day out at the field after he had crashed a P51, he said.........."hey, just because I can fly a 747 doesn't mean I can fly these things!! Of course now he has graduated to flying model jets, but still you are right in your statement.

Andy

flyinrog 02-05-2010 11:38 PM

RE: How Do I Stop Shaking
 
Sorry I made a thread where I said the drinking was a joke, but it didnt take...however anxiety can be helped with minor medication...I suffer from shy bladder syndrome myself and they help....surprisinly drinking does not!!..Rog

combatpigg 02-06-2010 12:16 AM

RE: How Do I Stop Shaking
 
Spend some time with a Pizza Box Flyer, that will loosen you up.

dignlivn 02-06-2010 12:33 AM

RE: How Do I Stop Shaking
 


ORIGINAL: ES CONTROL

First flight I always shake. Family reunions I shake , flying a plane I do not own, I shake.

This spring I will fly a new U Can Do 60 . And a plane I do not own. And my biggest problem is going to be staring me in the face. ( Quivering thumbs )

Am I alone with this problem ?

Is their any advice you could give me?

After 2 flights, I am back to my self again.<br type=''_moz'' />


You have to breath and fly the plane :D

I get that way on every first flight. Land and
look forward to the next flight.

Repeat with each aircraft through out the day.

Bob

hairy46 02-06-2010 01:01 AM

RE: How Do I Stop Shaking
 
I like to get to the field first so that I can get one or two flights in before someone else gets there to calm the nerves! Then by the time the others start getting there I know I have taken off and landed, Of course I will never get the great landings after they get there that I had before they arrived! Its natural we all go through it, And if its a maiden times 10

jimmyjames213 02-06-2010 01:02 AM

RE: How Do I Stop Shaking
 
i shake like crazy when
i put a new kit up in the air (arf's not so much), spending so much time building it really gets my nerves going'
flying in a compition/someone elses really expensive plane
and when i almost crash or do something really stupid
or when something feels wrong and you dont know if you will be able to recoverit didnt rotate out like it usual

the worst was when i first put my rapture into a true flatspin, man that thing was so flat i was just watching it spin until i realized how close it was to the ground. i was still 75+ feet up but when i gave it opposite rudder it didnt rotate out like a regular stall spin, i flipped out, gave it some throttle and prayed. two feet above the ground it came out of the spin, that was the worst 15 seconds of terror i ever went through watching my plane spiral down...i felt hopeless. then i was stupid enough to try it again, this time w/ old fuel. when i throttled up it studdered and smashed into the ground, totally my fault, i felt so stupid. i repaired her and shes still flying better than ever.

hairy46 02-06-2010 01:46 AM

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Yes there is nothing worst then giving the plane imput from the radio and it does something diffrent! Only happen a couple times but scares the heck out of you!

Luchnia 02-06-2010 07:41 AM

RE: How Do I Stop Shaking
 
Here are a few thoughts that helps with my nervousness. Fly your simulator, and maybe fly a small electric before you leave home to go to the field? Usually if I have not flown for quite a while, I just take up my trainer or a slower flying second bird and buzz around for the first few flights. That always does the trick for me and I find my nerves are so much better. They are very docile and really sets me in the mood and to top it off I don't lose a nice plane!

I see guys come out and fly some of their most advanced aircraft after not flying for a while. That makes no sense to me, but somehow they don't have pride if they come out with a docile bird. There are times this is a huge mistake! Sometimes they hit the dirt because they have not flown in a while. It isn't worth it to me. I would rather be made fun of than have to work on a crashed plane :D


RCFlyerDan 02-06-2010 08:25 AM

RE: How Do I Stop Shaking
 
You need to fly more to become more comfortable with your abilities. You might be flying too expensive of planes for yourself. This causes the stress of loosing the plane. Mostly, the shakes come from your excitement and adrenilan rush. We all shake at sometime or another. Good Luck!


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