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now thats just funny. you sure if was motor oil? Motor oil has a far stronger base to neutralise acids than any circulating oil.However to strong an alkali will also create corrosion so its not a good idea to submerge a metal part in such a strong alkaline medium for long.All thats needed is run the oil through the engine till it comes out of the exhaust, wrap in newspaper and pack away in a box. One molecule layer is sufficient.Besides, whos to say the engine did not have corrosion before he submerged it?

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This guy owned a big used car sales operation so I have no reason to think it was anything other than regular car motor oil for it looked and smelled as such and said Valvoline 10W40 on the outside of the can.

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It just depends on the battery. This winter my lipo broke from not being used. However, if you give your battery a full charge and stick it in the freezer the discharge rate will slow dramatically. This may help the battery live longer. Make sure it is fully warmed up before you use it if you try it.

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First off I want to thank you for your service. I have been in the Air Force for almost ten years now and it was the best desicion I could have made as a teenager. Last summer I crossed over to the officer side for pilot training so I had to pack up all my planes for storage and for the move. I can't off much more good advice as for storing the motors. I just removed all mine from the airplanes and flushed them out. Then I oiled them up and stored them in plastic bags and bubble wrap. As for the planes I bought some cheap bed shets at Wal-Mart and tore them up to cover the fuselages of all my models. Then I bough TONS of bubble wrap and packing tape. Not a single one of my planes had as much as a scratch on them. You can see how I packed them all up in the picture. It takes some time to do but they will survive long term storage unscathed. Good luck with your new adventure!!

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Most Monokote type coverings will hold up many years. Personal experince is at least 40 yrs.

The coverings like silkspan and silk will not make it for even 4 yrs

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I'm not sure this will help but, i had a rc buggy which sat still since the late 80s i recently charged the batterys at it worked just fine,need a good clean and a service and it lived so i think it might work for a rc plane :)

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yeah but was it new used oil? If it was used it was likley too acidic. If it was new then there should not have been a problem except for the action of keeoping the engine submerged in the oil.
As I said, too acidic an environment or too basic an environment can have the same effect. All thats needed is a coating of oil so the polar anto corrosion additives can get into the bits they need to.

Simple, no need to reinvent the wheel here.

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It wasn't used oil!

The fact is . . . Motor oil does not mix with the residual model fuel left in a model engine

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You might be suprised, that there are clubs around some of the Bases. Its been my experience that they usually have open arms, because there is always some amount of turnover. You just might end up with some strange looks during a barracks inspection! Also if you end up in the sandbox, a few folks have electric r/c cars over here. Its not quite the same, but it a good distraction from groundhog day. Good luck.

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When I was growing up, my father worked in construction and mostly worked at Army, Navy, and Air Force bases. There was always a significant model airplane presence at all of these military installations.

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Sorry, thats not a fact at all. Its an opinion and an erroneous one at that. Motor oils are designed to prevent corrosion on metals and to neutralise acids. They do this very well and model airplane engines are no different and no more harsh an environment or the EPA would be onto us like flies on horse dung.

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There's never any chance for your contention to work because the model airplane fuel residue is not soluble in automotive motor oil and the two remain distinct entities. No corrosion inhibition takes place where it is needed most.

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please try to make sense. oil is soluable in oil...

methanol evaporates off but it is certainly also soluable in oil.

Solubility is not the key issue, its displacement of the fuel and oil by the polar molecules that provides the anti corrosion.

Thats how the oil in the fuel works. Thats how anti corrosion additives work

I've asked someone else to stop providing erroneous information, I will ask you the same.</p>

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This subject has been discussed for many years, and your conception of how this works just does not happen.

The best thing for you to do is run your engines the way you want to and I will run mine the way I want to.

I have been running model engines for more than 55 years and you are not going to change the way I do things or the way I present my experiences to others

There are many other modelers that have been down the road that your are presenting and they have moved on to other solutions.

There are specific oils that work for corrosion prevention in model engines and they work much as you say but regular automotive motor oil is not one of them.

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DON"T USE MARVEL MYSTERY OIL, it has a cutting agent in it. Use air tool oil,which marvel mystery makes, but once again don't use the mystery oil

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argh well 55 years ofdrawing incorrect conclusions from anecdotal evidence does not equal good experience. But each to their own.

I know perefectly well how oils work and which oils for what purpose so like you say, I'll do my thing and you do yours.
Automotive works for me just fine, but you know the US is a another universe, the laws of physical chemistry mustbe different ove there.

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I'll use my Marvel Air Tool Oil and maybe Dexron if I cannot get the Air Tool Oil

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Excellent advice.

I would also remove the tank, tubings and fittings, then WASH them out, dry them and apply a bit of oil, and place them into baggies.

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I live in North Central Ohio and we have the dirt dabbers here also but I have not seen the little blue wasps that will fill the vent hole with white mud.

There has been a lot of good to follow advice this thread, especially the last two in the quote above. But in many cases, a plane is merely left to languish out in the garage for several years. In most cases, we are still able to rejuvenate these forgotten planes back to flying condition one way or another.

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I hope the oscar is going to a good home. I bred them for a few years and they are surprisingly intelligent critters. If you go visit him/her after a few months or a year, you will likely be recognized.

Good luck and thank you for your service,

jack

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Thanks everyone; I think I'm gonna take the engines off and use ATF(since I already have some;)) and put'em is small bags. If I find a place where I can find a place to fly my nitros then I'll have my planes and engines shipped to me. I quit my job the 31st;[8D] then I'm gonna start packing [:'(]




He'll ( or at least I think it's a he ;)) be goin to a local chinese food place. I've seen a few ocars in there before ( few years ago) but now they just have goldfish. They said they will take care of him. I've had him for 3 years and I've really become attached to him. When I first got him; I noticed that he would be most active when I walked up, knowing he was gonna get food:). After I seen that;I knew that he knew who I was.[8D]

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Does anyone know if I can fly outside the US if I have just an AMA card? or will I need to join something else?