Air filter oil
08-10-2009, 09:06 AM
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RE: Air filter oil
Go get a bottle of Marvel Mystery Oil from the local auto parts store. It's cheap, it's the same as AFO and you can use it as After Run Oil as well.
08-10-2009, 12:53 PM
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RE: Air filter oil
Any motorcycle dealer should have air filter oil...depending on what car or truck you're running, sometimes they give you a small bottle of filter oil...
08-10-2009, 06:21 PM
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RE: Air filter oil
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Go get a bottle of Marvel Mystery Oil from the local auto parts store. It's cheap, it's the same as AFO and you can use it as After Run Oil as well.
Go get a bottle of Marvel Mystery Oil from the local auto parts store. It's cheap, it's the same as AFO and you can use it as After Run Oil as well.
Real filter oil is cheaper than a ruined engine.
08-12-2009, 08:26 AM
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RE: Air filter oil
I've used MMO for over 6 years in all my air filters and have never had a problem. Could you provide me with an example where this oil lead to catastrophic failure of an engine?
08-12-2009, 07:35 PM
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RE: Air filter oil
Hey look, you use what you want and if you think it's good enough foir you then fine. BUT as a general advice to n00bs coming here I would not recommend using anything else than real air filter oil. It is more sticky and is made to be used as air filter oil. There is a reason it exists.
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I've used MMO for over 6 years in all my air filters and have never had a problem. Could you provide me with an example where this oil lead to catastrophic failure of an engine?
I've used MMO for over 6 years in all my air filters and have never had a problem. Could you provide me with an example where this oil lead to catastrophic failure of an engine?
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That's fine, but if something has worked for me for years and saved me money in the process, then I'm going to let others know it has worked, including noobs. We each have our own opinions, but I'm not going to stop recommending it until I see proof it caused an engine failure or I have a problem develop due to it. I run on dusty red clay in my front yard and my engines still run like a top. As long as the filter is oiled properly, whether it's a bottle labeled Air Filter Oil, or something that is similar to it, there will not be any issues caused by dirt getting through the filter. I use 30 drops of oil in my filters. I clean mine, then dry it, then I place mine in a plastic zip lock bag, put 30 drops of oil all around the filter, then squeeze the filter until the oil is worked throughout the entire element evenly. I have a couple extra elements I keep oiled as well. That way I can swap the filter without having to quit and clean/re-oil the filter. I just clean and re-oil them when I'm done running for the day.
Use what your gut tells you and what you are comfortable with. All I can do is tell you what I use.
Use what your gut tells you and what you are comfortable with. All I can do is tell you what I use.
08-13-2009, 10:18 AM
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RE: Air filter oil
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That's fine, but if something has worked for me for years and saved me money in the process, then I'm going to let others know it has worked, including noobs. We each have our own opinions, but I'm not going to stop recommending it until I see proof it caused an engine failure or I have a problem develop due to it. I run on dusty red clay in my front yard and my engines still run like a top. As long as the filter is oiled properly, whether it's a bottle labeled Air Filter Oil, or something that is similar to it, there will not be any issues caused by dirt getting through the filter. I use 30 drops of oil in my filters. I clean mine, then dry it, then I place mine in a plastic zip lock bag, put 30 drops of oil all around the filter, then squeeze the filter until the oil is worked throughout the entire element evenly. I have a couple extra elements I keep oiled as well. That way I can swap the filter without having to quit and clean/re-oil the filter. I just clean and re-oil them when I'm done running for the day.
Use what your gut tells you and what you are comfortable with. All I can do is tell you what I use.
That's fine, but if something has worked for me for years and saved me money in the process, then I'm going to let others know it has worked, including noobs. We each have our own opinions, but I'm not going to stop recommending it until I see proof it caused an engine failure or I have a problem develop due to it. I run on dusty red clay in my front yard and my engines still run like a top. As long as the filter is oiled properly, whether it's a bottle labeled Air Filter Oil, or something that is similar to it, there will not be any issues caused by dirt getting through the filter. I use 30 drops of oil in my filters. I clean mine, then dry it, then I place mine in a plastic zip lock bag, put 30 drops of oil all around the filter, then squeeze the filter until the oil is worked throughout the entire element evenly. I have a couple extra elements I keep oiled as well. That way I can swap the filter without having to quit and clean/re-oil the filter. I just clean and re-oil them when I'm done running for the day.
Use what your gut tells you and what you are comfortable with. All I can do is tell you what I use.
SManMTB may be a bit abrupt in his 'way' (as usual), but he's absolutely right (as usual). No offense SMan
08-14-2009, 07:46 AM
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Well said Foxy. I guess if you guys do not want me to recommend it, I will not. I will continue to use it for my RC's, but will no longer recommend it to noobs.
My apologies SMan. The way you wrote your post put me on the defensive instantly. Kinda like when my wife starts an arguement. lol
My apologies SMan. The way you wrote your post put me on the defensive instantly. Kinda like when my wife starts an arguement. lol
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RE: Air filter oil
Foxy Date 8/13/2009 10:19 AM
Larry, without intending to labor the point unduly, Sman is right, air filter oil is sticky, MMO is not. They are different oils, and while it's worked for you for years, I strongly suggest you consider using real AFO, it WILL be better than MMO, even if MMO is 'adequate'. On the subject of advising others, I would be very hesitant to recommend an oil which is nowhere near the appropriate formulation for catching small particles, even if it worked for the pope himself. It's a case of safety. Perhaps MMO would be ok for this guy, or perhaps MMO would cause a major engine failure. At least with AFO you can be sure. By all means, if it's a temporary "until I can get the LHS" thing, then you are absolutely right to speak your experience of this easy to obtain oil, and I'm sure it is 'acceptable' in the short term, or in low dust envirnoments, but for general use, I would definitely strongly disagree with any recommendation to use anything other than AFO.
SManMTB may be a bit abrupt in his 'way' (as usual), but he's absolutely right (as usual). No offense SMan
Larry, without intending to labor the point unduly, Sman is right, air filter oil is sticky, MMO is not. They are different oils, and while it's worked for you for years, I strongly suggest you consider using real AFO, it WILL be better than MMO, even if MMO is 'adequate'. On the subject of advising others, I would be very hesitant to recommend an oil which is nowhere near the appropriate formulation for catching small particles, even if it worked for the pope himself. It's a case of safety. Perhaps MMO would be ok for this guy, or perhaps MMO would cause a major engine failure. At least with AFO you can be sure. By all means, if it's a temporary "until I can get the LHS" thing, then you are absolutely right to speak your experience of this easy to obtain oil, and I'm sure it is 'acceptable' in the short term, or in low dust envirnoments, but for general use, I would definitely strongly disagree with any recommendation to use anything other than AFO.
SManMTB may be a bit abrupt in his 'way' (as usual), but he's absolutely right (as usual). No offense SMan
AFO all the way.
When I run out I will be getting the MX stuff -way more of the same or better for cheap.
I think I used Golden Spectro air filter oil on my dirtbikes back in the day.
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08-14-2009, 08:40 PM
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This is the internet.... it's text without faces, communication is bound to be short and to the point.
No need to be sorry, I'm not. It's opinions, do whatever pleases you.
No need to be sorry, I'm not. It's opinions, do whatever pleases you.
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RE: Air filter oil
saving money? its not like afo is like 30$ a bottle, just get the afo already. its like $3 for a 6 month sized bottle. as a substitute i would use ms. butterworths or karo syrup though, it doesn't get any stickier than that.
