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Old 03-17-2008, 09:53 PM
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I had a couple of visitors stop by the shop today. First thing they did was
ask for beer!
Did they drink mutch?
Old 03-20-2008, 05:28 PM
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Kelly,

What is the square tube for that runs down the spine of the planes? Is it a stiffener since the turtledeck is foam?

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Old 03-21-2008, 03:52 PM
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Sorry I was out of town for a few days....

It is a balsa servo wire tube.

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Kelly,

What is the square tube for that runs down the spine of the planes? Is it a stiffener since the turtledeck is foam?

-Jorden
Old 03-21-2008, 07:18 PM
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Ahhh OK, that makes sense.

Thanks,

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Old 03-29-2008, 08:44 PM
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Busy couple of weeks at work and life!

I stripped all the hardware from the planes last week in preparation for final sanding.
I also glassed in the air ducts for the engines and ran the fillets around the cowl/ply
parts.

I did the first major shop cleaning in preparation for the covering to start soon.

Today I set up a sanding table in the garage outside the shop and got started on the
sanding. I should have the fuses ready by Sunday.

I will post pictures when I start covering.
Old 04-03-2008, 08:37 AM
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Looks like I will start covering tonight unless something comes up.

I have the 2 fuses sanded to 400 grit and the wings are in the garage
being worked on.

Moved my glass top down to the work shop and covered the other table
in a soft sheet material.

The covering is here along with a new iron and sock. I will be trying
Monokote again for the first time in 20 years or so. The last few covering
jobs have been done with Ultracote. I love the way the Ultracote goes down
but the lighter colors are somewhat translucent and you can see the color
of the wood grain through the white.

I purchased 3 - 25' rolls of covering, Jet White, Royal Blue and True Red and
one 6' roll of Cub Yellow.
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Old 04-03-2008, 04:17 PM
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I've been lurking on the thread and thought I'd show myself. You build 'em good, kregan.

I like Ultracote better, tho. I think it sticks and shrinks better.
Old 04-03-2008, 07:24 PM
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Thanks OK2Fly!

I decided to start my plane first so any mistakes can be corrected on Kurt's plane.

I had to do the fuse bottom and side in 3 pieces. The covering is not wide enough
to go from side to side. I have the lightening holes in the bottom so I can't seem
the covering over the holes.

I started by cutting in the tail wheel and rear hatch area. Then I laid one piece in the bottom
center. I did one side and stopped for the night. Monokote is a bit harder then Ultrakote!

But if you take your time and work the air out it is fine. I hope it turns out nice but this won't
be a DSP quality covering job!
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Old 04-03-2008, 08:33 PM
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SWEEET!!!! Looking good man. I'm getting excited now!! Can't wait to get that pair out to the field and in the air.
Old 04-04-2008, 08:40 PM
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More of the first fuse.
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Old 04-04-2008, 09:34 PM
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How's that Monokote workin' out?
Old 04-04-2008, 09:47 PM
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Honestly it is not that hard to deal with. You just have to take your time
and work the air out as you press the covering down to the wood.

With Ultracote I could reheat and the air bubbles would disappear somehow.
I guess the Ultra would lift up in large area's and the air would escape.

With monokote once you stick it down you can't go back over it without creating
lots of smaller air pockets and the air gets trapped. It seems as if the Mono sticks
better and that is why the air gets trapped.

My main reason for choosing Mono over Ultra is that for fully sheeted surfaces
the Mono will not bubble up in the sun if applied correctly. We will see if I do it
right!

BTW, the orange plane in my avatar is Ultracote.
Old 04-04-2008, 10:01 PM
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That's the primary reason I use Ultracote. Air bubbles magically disappear when the heat gun is applied! But, yes, Monokote does not lift in the sun. I guess you can't win 'em all...

Are you going with the same scheme for both planes?
Old 04-05-2008, 02:23 PM
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What kind of iron is that black one that you are using? I see alot of people using them so I am looking into getting one because my Tower Hobbies one is getting on my nerves.

Neil
Old 04-05-2008, 03:33 PM
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Neil,

It's a 21st century iron.

http://www.coverite.com/accys/covr2700.html

My favorite iron.

Dave
Old 04-06-2008, 08:27 AM
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Looks great, is that royal blue and cub yellow?

Chris
Old 04-06-2008, 02:46 PM
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Kurt's plane will be White, True Red, w/ Royal Blue stripe and Silver pin stripe.

Mine is White, Royal Blue, w/ Cub Yellow stripes and 1/8" or 3/16" red pin stripes.

The pattern on the wings will be different and the yellow stripe on my cowl will turn
under. Kurt's blue stripe will go to the front of the cowl.

I worked on Kurt's plane and got the bottom and both sides covered today.
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Old 04-06-2008, 05:01 PM
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2 more.

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Looks good man. Glad you're doing it and not me. We won't even go into what it would look like if I were covering!!!!
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They look better in person! Only question I have is will I have a chance at the sticks? [>:]
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Sure, you can try my new putter and Driver next time out.

Ohhh..... THOSE sticks!


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They look better in person! Only question I have is will I have a chance at the sticks? [>:]
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Funny Guy.
Old 04-08-2008, 06:44 PM
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This color combo is really growing on me!

I laid out the underside of the main wings tonight and have
one done. The colors are much nicer then the pictures show.
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Old 04-08-2008, 11:05 PM
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Very nice...no curves?!
Old 04-10-2008, 08:52 PM
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Only a few curves this time.

Here is the top of the wing before the white is added.
I spent a couple of hours laying it out on paper templates
and then cut the pieces.

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