I need help identifying a couple of vintage pattern ships
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Thank you to all in advance who can help me identify these planes. I've had a lot of interest in some people wanting to purchase these from me, but I would like to know what it is that I am maybe, selling. The orange one is a glassed balsa fuse, with a glassed, foam wing. It weighs in a 72 oz like it sits. It has a 62" wing span, 26" antiheidral stab, set up for retracts, and doesn't look like it has ever taken to the air. The silver one was a past flyer. I'd say around mid 80's from the antique Futaba radio. It has a nice Rossi .61 rear exhaust engine, I'd guess Rohm Air retracts, a 64" wing span, 26" stab, a glass fuse, and a glassed foam wing. Any ideas? Like I said, much appreciation in advance.
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Hi, Paul
You are right on with the El Camino. I live in Cypress, Ca, which is a neighboring city to Buena Park, from which these were made in the mid eighties. (I found this out after doing some Google searching). They were made by J&E Enterprises, in Buena Park. Thanks for solving that mystery for me. I'm still trying to find a picture to mastch the silver one as a T2A & who made them.
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You are right on with the El Camino. I live in Cypress, Ca, which is a neighboring city to Buena Park, from which these were made in the mid eighties. (I found this out after doing some Google searching). They were made by J&E Enterprises, in Buena Park. Thanks for solving that mystery for me. I'm still trying to find a picture to mastch the silver one as a T2A & who made them.
Steve
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Yes made by the some company. But nooope! That's not an El Camino. That's a Renegade. Both weredesigned by Ed Baranowski and sold by J&E Enterprises and I want it! Would love to have Frequent Flyer reproduce it.
Everybody wanted a Baranowski where I used to fly back in the 1980's, I neverhad one. They were beautifully ballistic and graceful machines.
They also had a Razor back version, I believe, but can't remeber the name. First pic is a combo of all three.
The reason it's a Renegade vs the El Camino, isthatRenegade had the Anhedral Stab like the Curare. The El Camino had a straight stab.At least that's what I remember. The orange and white plane in the pics below is the El Camino. The next set of pics is of another Renegade with a black, white and red paint scheme that sold on Ebay a few years ago. Missed bidding on it.
I couldn't afford one back than as they sold for $300 as ARF's. All you needed to do was add your radio, engine and running controls. They offerd several different paint schemes.I like them so muchI'm doing asimilar color schemeon a Utter Kaos I'm getting read to maiden. Last pics.
Yes made by the some company. But nooope! That's not an El Camino. That's a Renegade. Both weredesigned by Ed Baranowski and sold by J&E Enterprises and I want it! Would love to have Frequent Flyer reproduce it.
Everybody wanted a Baranowski where I used to fly back in the 1980's, I neverhad one. They were beautifully ballistic and graceful machines.
They also had a Razor back version, I believe, but can't remeber the name. First pic is a combo of all three.
The reason it's a Renegade vs the El Camino, isthatRenegade had the Anhedral Stab like the Curare. The El Camino had a straight stab.At least that's what I remember. The orange and white plane in the pics below is the El Camino. The next set of pics is of another Renegade with a black, white and red paint scheme that sold on Ebay a few years ago. Missed bidding on it.
I couldn't afford one back than as they sold for $300 as ARF's. All you needed to do was add your radio, engine and running controls. They offerd several different paint schemes.I like them so muchI'm doing asimilar color schemeon a Utter Kaos I'm getting read to maiden. Last pics.
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That is one really nice T2-A you got there Steve. Definately worthy of a resto to make her prestine! Maybe you should keep them both. Nothing like the feeling of flying one of these planes. If you do sell, please dont sell them to someone who just wants a RTF or ARF plane to throw around in the sky [:@]. Seen too many of these go there and never come back.. 
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Thank you, DM
No. I wouldn't sell them to a "non modeler" as I agree with you.....it would just be a waste. The only reason for me to be interested in letting them go, is the fact, I need large planes to fly. I feel more comfortable with them, and I'm a scale airplane builder & lover. My interest would be trading them for something of my interest, not just for money, and to trade them to someone that would appreciate them as much, as I do scale projects. Thanks again,
Steve
No. I wouldn't sell them to a "non modeler" as I agree with you.....it would just be a waste. The only reason for me to be interested in letting them go, is the fact, I need large planes to fly. I feel more comfortable with them, and I'm a scale airplane builder & lover. My interest would be trading them for something of my interest, not just for money, and to trade them to someone that would appreciate them as much, as I do scale projects. Thanks again,
Steve
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The silver plane is a T-2A, kitted by Bob Smith R/C Aircraft. It has a glass fuselage, and foam core wings and stab with a fiberglass skin. The main wheel wells were molded in place. I laid up a few of them back in the day. They are a n awesome flying airplane.




