Classic Pattern Reproduction Project Review
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Long time RCU followers may recocognize me and are familiar with my interest in classic pattern models from the late 60's and 70's. This thread will be the anchor or reference for my many posts regarding classic pattern models. I have been creating classic pattern "reproductions" for the last 5 or so years including the World Championship Blue Angel, Calypso and Jeckyll, popular models including the Tiporare, MK Champion, Dirty Birdy, Deception, Tweety Bird, Komet and Aeromaster.
The Miss Norway is a yet to be completed project created with my "Elves" blowing up the RCM Training Volume II construction article by 10% and powered by a Hacker electric motor.
Additionally, I have a significant (obsessed!) interest in the 1978 era Tournament of Champions models including the Akromaster, Laser, Zlin and of course the Dalotel.
I am interested in sharing my passion and experiences because the models, the modelers who created them and the modelers who have helped me create my replicas think it is fun.
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The photo below is of my sons Chip and Tom with our Blue Angel and Calypso.
May I introduce one of my dearest friends, mentors and fantastic modeler-Dave Guerin.
THIS IS NOT A COMMERCIAL VENTURE OR ACTIVITY!!!!
Respectfully,
B.E. "Rusty" Dose III
aka "Berusty"
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Long time RCU followers may recocognize me and are familiar with my interest in classic pattern models from the late 60's and 70's. This thread will be the anchor or reference for my many posts regarding classic pattern models. I have been creating classic pattern "reproductions" for the last 5 or so years including the World Championship Blue Angel, Calypso and Jeckyll, popular models including the Tiporare, MK Champion, Dirty Birdy, Deception, Tweety Bird, Komet and Aeromaster.
The Miss Norway is a yet to be completed project created with my "Elves" blowing up the RCM Training Volume II construction article by 10% and powered by a Hacker electric motor.
Additionally, I have a significant (obsessed!) interest in the 1978 era Tournament of Champions models including the Akromaster, Laser, Zlin and of course the Dalotel.
I am interested in sharing my passion and experiences because the models, the modelers who created them and the modelers who have helped me create my replicas think it is fun.
Photos:
The photo below is of my sons Chip and Tom with our Blue Angel and Calypso.
May I introduce one of my dearest friends, mentors and fantastic modeler-Dave Guerin.
THIS IS NOT A COMMERCIAL VENTURE OR ACTIVITY!!!!
Respectfully,
B.E. "Rusty" Dose III
aka "Berusty"
Team Futaba
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In the early 70's my mother would take me to the Swanson public Library in Omaha, Nebraska and one day I stumbled upon American Aircraft Modeler...Wow!
One of the first issues I devoured was the issue about Mr. Yoshioka and his Blue Angel. In 2011 and 2012 Dave Guerin and I created the Blue Angel pictured from the German Sunshine/Wega semi-kit.
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In the early 70's my mother would take me to the Swanson public Library in Omaha, Nebraska and one day I stumbled upon American Aircraft Modeler...Wow!
One of the first issues I devoured was the issue about Mr. Yoshioka and his Blue Angel. In 2011 and 2012 Dave Guerin and I created the Blue Angel pictured from the German Sunshine/Wega semi-kit.
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The Calypso was another World Champion designed by Hanno Prettner. The "trainer model" was what the competitors called it and it well...beat them all. My version was about 99% accurate powered by the Super Tigre mid-stroke motor and found it to be a very fine model.
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The Calypso was another World Champion designed by Hanno Prettner. The "trainer model" was what the competitors called it and it well...beat them all. My version was about 99% accurate powered by the Super Tigre mid-stroke motor and found it to be a very fine model.
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In 1978, the organizers of the Circus Circus sponsored Tournament of Champions changed the format of the event and set radio control aerobatics on a new path- larger scale models! The 1977 event featured a demo flight of an Akromaster designed by Ed Keck. The model was huge by comparison and was powered by the enormous Webra .91. One year later 6 of the 20 or so competitors showed up with the Akromaster that Ed designed.
My goal was and remains is to have a dedicated "Classic TOC" event flying models from the 1978 event. I engaged the assistance of two other modelers that I called "Rusty's Elves" to create kits (not for profit but for convenience!!!) available so I would not have to fly against myself. We have duplicated the Akromaster, Laser and Zlin from plans and drawings from the original 1978 models in both glow and "E" versions.
The model pictured below is the prototype Akromaster TOC "E" powered by an inexpensive Rimfire (yes I am a Team Futaba pilot and therefore am happy to use the Hobbico brands!) 120 size motor/speed control and a 6S 4000-5000 Lipo battery. It has been one of my favorite models of all time.
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In 1978, the organizers of the Circus Circus sponsored Tournament of Champions changed the format of the event and set radio control aerobatics on a new path- larger scale models! The 1977 event featured a demo flight of an Akromaster designed by Ed Keck. The model was huge by comparison and was powered by the enormous Webra .91. One year later 6 of the 20 or so competitors showed up with the Akromaster that Ed designed.
My goal was and remains is to have a dedicated "Classic TOC" event flying models from the 1978 event. I engaged the assistance of two other modelers that I called "Rusty's Elves" to create kits (not for profit but for convenience!!!) available so I would not have to fly against myself. We have duplicated the Akromaster, Laser and Zlin from plans and drawings from the original 1978 models in both glow and "E" versions.
The model pictured below is the prototype Akromaster TOC "E" powered by an inexpensive Rimfire (yes I am a Team Futaba pilot and therefore am happy to use the Hobbico brands!) 120 size motor/speed control and a 6S 4000-5000 Lipo battery. It has been one of my favorite models of all time.
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Dave Brown was a significant contributor to Classic Pattern as a competitor, marketer as an employee of World Engines and mentor to icons including Somenzini, Frankowiak and Radcliff. Dave flew the Tiporare, an airplane based on the Curare designed by Dick Hanson, at the end of his active pattern competition life.
Dave Guerin and I completed an original Hanson built Tiporare with a YS short stroke and a stylized version of Dave's scheme. A fabulous airplane that I flew in one round of FAI in 2012.
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Dave Brown was a significant contributor to Classic Pattern as a competitor, marketer as an employee of World Engines and mentor to icons including Somenzini, Frankowiak and Radcliff. Dave flew the Tiporare, an airplane based on the Curare designed by Dick Hanson, at the end of his active pattern competition life.
Dave Guerin and I completed an original Hanson built Tiporare with a YS short stroke and a stylized version of Dave's scheme. A fabulous airplane that I flew in one round of FAI in 2012.
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Mr. Kato released the MK Champion sometime in 1973 with an inovative injection molded nylon fuselage. The first of my reproduction projects proved to be very rewarding. Dave Guerin and I were surprised by the flight qualities even with the modest power produced by the Enya engine.
In 2009, I created a publication called "The Classic Pattern Trader" kind of like a version of the "Wine Spectator" to release my passion for the classics. I have included a review of the MK Champion below.
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Mr. Kato released the MK Champion sometime in 1973 with an inovative injection molded nylon fuselage. The first of my reproduction projects proved to be very rewarding. Dave Guerin and I were surprised by the flight qualities even with the modest power produced by the Enya engine.
In 2009, I created a publication called "The Classic Pattern Trader" kind of like a version of the "Wine Spectator" to release my passion for the classics. I have included a review of the MK Champion below.
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The Sig Komet was a model on my list based on the beautiful Sig annual Catalog. Maxey Hester created the model in the early 70's as a product offering for Sig Manufacturing. The kit was offered with either balsa or 1/64 plywood sheeting for the foam wings and featured a plastic turtle deck.
Many of my projects are joint efforts with me doing the construction and radio installation with Dave Guerin completing the finish. I have not completed the model but it is ready to re-install the equipment. The finish is a combination of Monokote for the flying surfaces and bottom of fuselage and PPG base coat/clear coat turtle deck. Dave's work is amazing!
The model will be powered by a Webra from the era and is on deck to complete in 2014.
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The Sig Komet was a model on my list based on the beautiful Sig annual Catalog. Maxey Hester created the model in the early 70's as a product offering for Sig Manufacturing. The kit was offered with either balsa or 1/64 plywood sheeting for the foam wings and featured a plastic turtle deck.
Many of my projects are joint efforts with me doing the construction and radio installation with Dave Guerin completing the finish. I have not completed the model but it is ready to re-install the equipment. The finish is a combination of Monokote for the flying surfaces and bottom of fuselage and PPG base coat/clear coat turtle deck. Dave's work is amazing!
The model will be powered by a Webra from the era and is on deck to complete in 2014.
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The Andrews Aeromaster was another model integral to classic pattern and the foundation of turn around pattern via the National Multi-Wing Championships in Omaha, Nebraska. Olie Olson, an aeronautical engineer by education, owned the Benson Hobby Center in Omaha, Nebraska and was a leader of the Omahawks R/C club. He created the Multi-Wing Championships in the early 70's and as a gifted promoter had contestants travel from all over the country to compete. The format included a turn-around concept and which some consider the basis for IMAC today.
The Andrews Aeromaster was a very competitive model of the day and allowed the builder to create a number of wing planforms. My model has a straight lower wing and swept top wing. It will be powered by an OS .61 AX which whould be a lot of fun. It has not been completed but is in my 2015 schedule.
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The Andrews Aeromaster was another model integral to classic pattern and the foundation of turn around pattern via the National Multi-Wing Championships in Omaha, Nebraska. Olie Olson, an aeronautical engineer by education, owned the Benson Hobby Center in Omaha, Nebraska and was a leader of the Omahawks R/C club. He created the Multi-Wing Championships in the early 70's and as a gifted promoter had contestants travel from all over the country to compete. The format included a turn-around concept and which some consider the basis for IMAC today.
The Andrews Aeromaster was a very competitive model of the day and allowed the builder to create a number of wing planforms. My model has a straight lower wing and swept top wing. It will be powered by an OS .61 AX which whould be a lot of fun. It has not been completed but is in my 2015 schedule.
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Chip Hyde may be the most celebrated US pilot of the last 35 years. He and his father Merle have provided many innovations including the isolation motor mount. In 1991, Chip won the F3A World Championships flying his Jecklyll design. They built three models for the worlds and two were painted. Chip called a few years ago to see if I would be interested in the #3 model...YES!
Dave Guerin, who has built several of Chip's later World Championship entry models provided the paint and finish to the ready to paint model. The model is an engineering marvel with details and ideas that Merle created so Chip could fly the model thousands of times with little maintenance. The model had all servo trays, pushrods, hardware installed and was set-up for one of his Hyde mounts.
My model is not complete but may be on my 2015 schedule. Although it is not technically a Classic pattern eligible model it is simply too cool as a historical object.
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Chip Hyde may be the most celebrated US pilot of the last 35 years. He and his father Merle have provided many innovations including the isolation motor mount. In 1991, Chip won the F3A World Championships flying his Jecklyll design. They built three models for the worlds and two were painted. Chip called a few years ago to see if I would be interested in the #3 model...YES!
Dave Guerin, who has built several of Chip's later World Championship entry models provided the paint and finish to the ready to paint model. The model is an engineering marvel with details and ideas that Merle created so Chip could fly the model thousands of times with little maintenance. The model had all servo trays, pushrods, hardware installed and was set-up for one of his Hyde mounts.
My model is not complete but may be on my 2015 schedule. Although it is not technically a Classic pattern eligible model it is simply too cool as a historical object.
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The Miss Norway was a construction style article in the RCM anthology series Training Manual II. The Ernst Totland design was flown in the 1973 World Championships and has been a "must build" project for me.
My special team of Elves have created a nifty collection of models of interest only to me, but never the less, now have quite a bit of experience creating CAD engineered, laser cut kits for the TOC Akromaster, TOC Laser 200, TOC Zlin and a 110% Miss Norway. The Miss Norway has foam flying surfaces and balsa/ply inter-locking parts and is designed for a Hacker motor and 6s lipo.
The project was progressing well until I began my continuing contentious divorce in 2012. The photos are self explanatory and will probably be the first step by step build blog beginning by October 2014.
Stay tuned!
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The Miss Norway was a construction style article in the RCM anthology series Training Manual II. The Ernst Totland design was flown in the 1973 World Championships and has been a "must build" project for me.
My special team of Elves have created a nifty collection of models of interest only to me, but never the less, now have quite a bit of experience creating CAD engineered, laser cut kits for the TOC Akromaster, TOC Laser 200, TOC Zlin and a 110% Miss Norway. The Miss Norway has foam flying surfaces and balsa/ply inter-locking parts and is designed for a Hacker motor and 6s lipo.
The project was progressing well until I began my continuing contentious divorce in 2012. The photos are self explanatory and will probably be the first step by step build blog beginning by October 2014.
Stay tuned!
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The 1978 Hanno Prettner Dalotel maybe the most significant model of the last 40 years. Hanno embraced the concept of the 1978 Tournament of Champions to create a within 10% scale outline less than 20 pount airplane flying a full-scale turn around sequence. His model may have had a 2.85 m wingspan, 2500 sqaure inches, 2.30 m fuselage length, weighed 9.95 kilograms and was powered by a two piped Webra .61's geared to a common shaft.
One of my elves has a video I will provide at a future date of a flight which is simply put...eery. The sound and graceful flight are amazing!
It should be noted that Hanno flew a Dalotel in the 1978 - 1982 TOC's with the 1982 version available as a kit from Bridi just as it was sold to Great Planes. Thanks to Dave Anderson, I have the "production kit" and the actual demo model of the 1982 Bridi/Great Planes Kit.
My CAD Elf, Dave Snow, has created a 2000 square inch masterpiece that will feature Robart electric retracts and I even found an original NIB Webra .61 Boxer motor based on the 1982 Hanno design. The project represents my ultimate dream of modeling and will be continued as my energy and time allow. A few pictures are provided below.
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Photo Credit: Taurus Flyer provided color corrected photos of the 1982 Dalotel. Thanks!
The 1978 Hanno Prettner Dalotel maybe the most significant model of the last 40 years. Hanno embraced the concept of the 1978 Tournament of Champions to create a within 10% scale outline less than 20 pount airplane flying a full-scale turn around sequence. His model may have had a 2.85 m wingspan, 2500 sqaure inches, 2.30 m fuselage length, weighed 9.95 kilograms and was powered by a two piped Webra .61's geared to a common shaft.
One of my elves has a video I will provide at a future date of a flight which is simply put...eery. The sound and graceful flight are amazing!
It should be noted that Hanno flew a Dalotel in the 1978 - 1982 TOC's with the 1982 version available as a kit from Bridi just as it was sold to Great Planes. Thanks to Dave Anderson, I have the "production kit" and the actual demo model of the 1982 Bridi/Great Planes Kit.
My CAD Elf, Dave Snow, has created a 2000 square inch masterpiece that will feature Robart electric retracts and I even found an original NIB Webra .61 Boxer motor based on the 1982 Hanno design. The project represents my ultimate dream of modeling and will be continued as my energy and time allow. A few pictures are provided below.
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Photo Credit: Taurus Flyer provided color corrected photos of the 1982 Dalotel. Thanks!
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Hey Rusty,
Great to have you back! Your unbridled enthusiasm for classic pattern will benefit us all (with the assistance of your 'elves'
)! Lots of great projects. I had a Bridi Dalotel kit. I copied the plans and sold the kit which was (IMHO) extremely heavy. I suspect Hanno's Dalotel was built a lot lighter. I'm sure a bit of re-engineering would produce an excellent version.
Thanks for the updates!
-Will
Great to have you back! Your unbridled enthusiasm for classic pattern will benefit us all (with the assistance of your 'elves'
)! Lots of great projects. I had a Bridi Dalotel kit. I copied the plans and sold the kit which was (IMHO) extremely heavy. I suspect Hanno's Dalotel was built a lot lighter. I'm sure a bit of re-engineering would produce an excellent version.Thanks for the updates!
-Will
08-16-2014, 11:19 AM
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I have never seen one fly but I have read an American Aircraft Modeler review and it apparently flies pretty well. Our experience is that using modern equipment and props the potential is reached. My model is stiffer based on additional cross braces in fuselage and very lite.
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I have never seen one fly but I have read an American Aircraft Modeler review and it apparently flies pretty well. Our experience is that using modern equipment and props the potential is reached. My model is stiffer based on additional cross braces in fuselage and very lite.
Rusty
08-16-2014, 11:22 AM
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No disputing Hanno's Dalotel looking Skybolt. I have seen only one picture of the actual model and will post next week.
John Britt and my pal Doug Ferguson each campaigned a Skybolt in other TOC's to take advantage of the biplane scoring bonus.
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No disputing Hanno's Dalotel looking Skybolt. I have seen only one picture of the actual model and will post next week.
John Britt and my pal Doug Ferguson each campaigned a Skybolt in other TOC's to take advantage of the biplane scoring bonus.
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I am curious as to what unfinished projects you guys would be most interested in seeing a step by step words/photo build discussion?
i could benefit from the interest to be less goal diffused.
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i could benefit from the interest to be less goal diffused.
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Joe Bridi may be considered the finest precision aerobatic/pattern marketer of the last 45 years. His designs including the Kaos, Super Kaos, Dirty Birdy and UFO assisted many fliers navigate thru the pattern ranks. The no nonsense all wood Kaos design may be the most popular pattern model of all time. Many of us have flown a Bridi trainer, sport model or certainly have seen one.
The Tweety Bird has been on my list since I had my first K&B/Veco .19. This particular project became more interesting when the Hangar 9 (E-Flite) electric retracts became available. I did the construction and retract/radio and fuselage glassing and my long time friend Dave Guerin handled the paint and Monokote.
It will probably end up in Sweden to resolve another model I sold but is too expensive to ship. It is a jewel to say the least.
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Joe Bridi may be considered the finest precision aerobatic/pattern marketer of the last 45 years. His designs including the Kaos, Super Kaos, Dirty Birdy and UFO assisted many fliers navigate thru the pattern ranks. The no nonsense all wood Kaos design may be the most popular pattern model of all time. Many of us have flown a Bridi trainer, sport model or certainly have seen one.
The Tweety Bird has been on my list since I had my first K&B/Veco .19. This particular project became more interesting when the Hangar 9 (E-Flite) electric retracts became available. I did the construction and retract/radio and fuselage glassing and my long time friend Dave Guerin handled the paint and Monokote.
It will probably end up in Sweden to resolve another model I sold but is too expensive to ship. It is a jewel to say the least.
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Lone stoner,
Sounds like a nifty project. Try to build your model as lite as you can and as accurately. Most wood kits can be sanded much more "rounded" and not weaken the structure. This removes excess material. Follow the plans closely for the radio installation and center of gravity.
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Sounds like a nifty project. Try to build your model as lite as you can and as accurately. Most wood kits can be sanded much more "rounded" and not weaken the structure. This removes excess material. Follow the plans closely for the radio installation and center of gravity.
Rusty
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The 1984 Hanno Skybolt...
I am pretty sure this is a photo of the infamous Hanno Prettner 1984 Skybolt. It did not meet the scale outline requirement.
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I am pretty sure this is a photo of the infamous Hanno Prettner 1984 Skybolt. It did not meet the scale outline requirement.
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