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Old 09-22-2006 | 07:30 AM
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I just left the Early R/C models website. I see no way to find out what they produce in kits. I see no way to order online. The businesses they list as stocking their kits must use the same webmaster since they are no help at all. How do these folks stay in business?

My hearing is bad and holding the phone hurts my shoulder. I avoid using the telephone whenever possible. I love using the internet to order.

In this day and age, anyone not set up for ordering via the internet has missed the boat. Even my wife's small quilt pattern selling business is set up to take orders via the internet (www.quigleyquotables.com).

I tried to join the VR/CS. Same deal. Gotta print out a form and send it via snail mail. I could already be a member if they had online registration and used PayPal for accepting membership fees.

I'm old, so being old is no excuse. Get with it, people! <G>
Old 09-22-2006 | 08:24 AM
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Wing Mfg. bought Early R/C Models from Bob Harris this past summer. They would be the people to contact.

Also, Steve Adams carries the line: http://selecthobbies.com/kits.html
Old 09-22-2006 | 11:26 AM
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Artisan, like Raineday said I sold Early RC to Dan and Billie Gipe of Wing Mfg this spring. They are some great people and they will continue to offer my re-issue designs in the future. Unfortunately I set up the original website and did not have a way to buy on line at the time. I am sorry for your convince. If you e-mail Dan at [email protected] he will personally help you with any questions and orders you may need. Also if you have any questions on any of the Early RC designs please e-mail me and I will help you as much as I can.

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Old 09-22-2006 | 12:52 PM
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BobHH, as Dave brought to my attention in an earlier post on a different subject, it is Rainedav, as in Rainy Dave, not Rainy Day. I am posting this for Dave's benefit. See Dave, I'm watching out for you. Smiles from an old man in Florida.
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Excuse me Dave!! I can't help I have fat fingers!! Hope to see you next week at the 1/2A flyin Rainedav!! You bringing out your Dad's Jr falcon?

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airbusdrvr, I've got your back. Just in case anyone calls you airbrush!

Bob, what I was really hoping was that I could bring my Sr. Falcon and make you do the maiden/trimming flight for me. I've never done the first flight on any r/c model I've ever built. Superstitious, I guess. Rog sort of frowned on that idea; which I totally understand. Right now, the Jr Falcon has a GWS geared electric on the nose (and flies great). I might switch it out for the race, though.
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Well, I don't know what's going on with Wing Mfg. but I can't get a strait answer from them on just about anything. I've tried to get some info on their supposed pattern plane line, but as of yet, no real answer as to what they will be selling or even when. I'm going to have a composite fuselage/foam core sheeted wing and stab ARF Curare knock off for sale before they even get back in touch with me. Check out http://blueridgeaeroworks.blogspot.com/ Prop
Old 09-23-2006 | 02:42 PM
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Well, I don't know what's going on with Wing Mfg. but I can't get a strait answer from them on just about anything. I've tried to get some info on their supposed pattern plane line, but as of yet, no real answer as to what they will be selling or even when. I'm going to have a composite fuselage/foam core sheeted wing and stab ARF Curare knock off for sale before they even get back in touch with me. Check out http://blueridgeaeroworks.blogspot.com/ Prop

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I have been wanting a Curare for quite a while now, glad to see it will be available.

What do you mean by, "ready to go". TIA
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Artisan, I'ts going to be a while till the HOO-RAH-RAY is in production. I'm starting out with plans, and it takes a lot of work to get the plug perfect for the mold. That plus all the other planes I'm working on. If I could just quit my full time job and build all day long!!!!! Also sorry, the post should have read ready for your gear and engine. Prop
Old 09-23-2006 | 05:38 PM
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Artisan, I'ts going to be a while till the HOO-RAH-RAY is in production. I'm starting out with plans, and it takes a lot of work to get the plug perfect for the mold. That plus all the other planes I'm working on. If I could just quit my full time job and build all day long!!!!! Also sorry, the post should have read ready for your gear and engine. Prop
Can you explain more about what you are offering for $550? It would be worth in the $350+ range in a kit form. Are you saying that for $200 more it is ready to fly? How much do you plan to make per hour building these things?
Old 09-23-2006 | 07:05 PM
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The Curare ARF knock off will be a vac bagged composite fuselage with sheeted foam core wings and stab. Available in a single scheme "paint in the molds" or custom airbrush work version. This will be a made to order, hand crafted ARF where all you have to do is add your radio gear and choice of engine. The Curare as you know is a very popular plane and you just can't find them out there anymore. Sure, you could spend hundreds on Ebay bidding against some collector for a kit, then build it and fly. Or, spend $20 for the plans and scratch build one too. Singapore Hobbies has a MK kit listed for about $225 (US) but they don't have anymore in stock.[]I'm going the $20 plan way utilizing a built up fuselage for a plug. After investing the many hrs involved building the plug, and fabricating the mold, plus all the other materials, hardware and time spent finishing the model, I don't know for sure how much per hr I'll be making per model untill I get to the point of actual production.
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I am definitely interested if all I have to do is load the ARF model with my gear and then fly.

An all white scheme ready for the user's trim scheme would be nice.

Also, having the nose set up for a belly mount nose gear and the wings set up for a popular contemporary brand of retracts would help. But I'm sure you have thought of this.

Offering two and four-stroke versions would be a good idea too. Or just a four-stroke version to simplify things for you.

I wish you the best of success.

Yep, those day jobs can be a PITA. But whatcha gonna do? <G>
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I went to the link for your website. Which planes are currently available? The Maverick, Delta or "the Noname ARF 0.40 Pattern"?. Isn't $325.00 a little expensive for the Maverick, which appears to be a basic box fuselage .... kaos type. What kind of price could you offer if it was just foam wings and fuselage as a kit as 8178 mentioned.
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The Curare ARF knock off will be a vac bagged composite fuselage with sheeted foam core wings and stab. Available in a single scheme "paint in the molds" or custom airbrush work version. This will be a made to order, hand crafted ARF where all you have to do is add your radio gear and choice of engine. The Curare as you know is a very popular plane and you just can't find them out there anymore. Sure, you could spend hundreds on Ebay bidding against some collector for a kit, then build it and fly. Or, spend $20 for the plans and scratch build one too. Singapore Hobbies has a MK kit listed for about $225 (US) but they don't have anymore in stock.[]I'm going the $20 plan way utilizing a built up fuselage for a plug. After investing the many hrs involved building the plug, and fabricating the mold, plus all the other materials, hardware and time spent finishing the model, I don't know for sure how much per hr I'll be making per model untill I get to the point of actual production.
Old 09-24-2006 | 09:11 AM
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Sorry, I'm not going to offer short kits on any of the models. Only in the complete ARF form. They are all vac bagged composite fuselages with sheeted foam core wings. I'm currently getting set up in a larger shop and will be offering the Maverick the Delta and the Gemini pattern ship in a couple of weeks. I'll be advertising here on RCU. Thanks for your interest!
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It would be great if you could tell us more. Are you taking balsa sheeted wing with, servo cutouts, retract mounts, flaps and spoilers and covered with MonoKote? Will the fuselage be setup for the nose gear retract unit? Could you standardize on Spring Air retract units so they just drop in and bolt up. Will there be a motor mount in place ready to drop in the engine? How far back will the firewall be from the nose? I take it the wing will come as a one piece unit and the stab will be installed in the fuselage?
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Those are good questions, 8178. Since the Curare is a tri-gear design, it will be necessary to know things like the fuselage space available for the nosegear retract since that measurement pretty much dictates the engine/prop size that can be used.

Thanks, David
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It would be best if it was setup for retracts during the construction because they would be hard to add after it is built. I do not have Curare plans so I don’t know how the nose gear was setup.

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Not a whole lot of info. Looks like a rail mount type on a ply floor. It might be best to have a notch cut into the LE of the wing center section so a 4-stroke with a bigger prop could also be used.
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Old 09-24-2006 | 07:37 PM
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Jeeze guys, all good questions for which right now, I don't have any answers for. The Curare model is going to be a ways off from now, as I'm trying to get my shop set up to produce the other models I'm going to offer, and I still have a bunch of stuff to finish up with them. I've spent probably 15 min. total looking at the Curare plans. I'll be sure to ask for your input,advice and what you would like to see as options on this project, as you guys here are a wealth of info! Prop

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