I've got a Eureka Troublemaker on the way for a winter build. I really like the trim scheme of the Troublemaker on Eureka's website and I believe it's a picture of Tony Bonetti's Troublemaker. My question is: Does anybody know what the trim scheme of the bottom of the model is? Any help would be greatly appreciated!

FB

Anybody????

It's been a long time but if my memory serves me right I think it is the same
scheme on the bottom.

tommy s

That's what I remember, too. But I'm really not sure.

This plane build heavy so take care to keep it light. There is precious little room for the fuel tank. Think about that before the build so you can accommodate your solution. I wound up using a tetra bubbleless tank after some problems.

Thanks for the response guys - I kinda figured that the bottom was similar to the top. I was thinking of reversing the scheme on the bottom, i.e. white center surrounded by blue on the wing.

Stripes: Thanks for the info, I know the front end is tight. Is retracts an option (tri gear)? Is there enough room in the nose? How does your TM fly?

FB

I saw Tony Bonetti fly at a Bowie, Maryland pattern contest back in the early Eighties. Wow. His style was more abrupt and razor sharp than many of the pilots flying there that day. I enjoyed watching him twiddle the sticks.

Up until that point, I didn't care for the Troublemaker all that much, but after seeing it in the hands of the master, it captured my fancy.

Frankly, it looked a bit dated when compared to contemporary models such as the Tiporare, EU-1A and Ken Bonema's model, for which I cannot remember the name at the moment. However, one got the impression while watching Tony fly that he could have done just about as well flying a then modern symmetrical airfoiled trainer, if you know what I mean.

His Troublemaker presented far better than I imagined it would.


Ed Cregger

I think the color scheme was reversed on the bottom of the wing? Black and white w/ red pinstripe...

I saw Tony Bonetti fly his Triple Trouble (IIRC it was at Endicott ) in '76 or '77...awesome [8D]
Dave Mathewson flew a J&J Troublemaker (original version ) with a Webra Speed...

Physically there appears to be enough room but the tank location will be high and you will have to contend with that. When you look at the picture of the plane notice that the engine is located low - long nose sloping downward.

My plane is the "extended" version and I moved the stab up a bit. It flies as well as any Kaos I ever flew with the exception that it doesn't like slow landings, it's not a floater which is why I recommend you build light. With those swept wings and tail pieces it is definitely the sexiest airplane on the ARF filled flightline.

The Phoenix 8 shared a similar sloping nose/tank location problem, or so it appeared. If it did work without using a YS or another brand of pumped/pressurized/regulated engine, I would be surprised.


Ed Cregger

I saw Tony fly the Triple Trouble at his home field a few times. I don't remember the color scheme that well, but there was a lot of black in it just like the Troublemaker. I remember the plane showed up well against the sky.

Tom

[quote][Physically there appears to be enough room but the tank location will be high and you will have to contend with that. When you look at the picture of the plane notice that the engine is located low - long nose sloping downward.

My plane is the "extended" version and I moved the stab up a bit. It flies as well as any Kaos I ever flew with the exception that it doesn't like slow landings, it's not a floater which is why I recommend you build light. With those swept wings and tail pieces it is definitely the sexiest airplane on the ARF filled flightline./quote]

Stripes: Having the tank a little high is better than having it on the low side. I can deal with that. I've got the extended version also. When you moved the stab up, what's "a bit"? Also why did you move it up? I couldn't agree more about the TM being a sexy plane!

I guess we'll find out Ed!

I just talked to Spring Air and they recommend the 100 series. It's not obvious on their website, but the 100 series are firewall mounted and the 200 series are rail mounted.

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I switched my Rom gear to belly mount (rail mounted) to gain additional tank room and ease of service. I'm curious as to why Spring-Air would recommend the cumbersome and space consuming firewall mounted gear? Yes, they are stronger, but sometimes it is better to break an easily accessible wooden mount that is screwed into place (not epoxied) than to put up with the hassles of a firewall mounted nose gear.

They make the gear, but do they fly the planes?


Ed Cregger