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Can anyone guess the Takeoff Gross Weight of this plane with TWELVE, count them TWELVE 16-inch battleship guns?
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My guess is that all of the Russians killed were on Layer-8 of Photoshop. . .
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I have to keep editing my post because I keep finding more artillery pieces every time I look at the picture!! And who is going to load the rear-firing guns in flight?!?!
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My guess is that all of the Russians killed were on Layer-8 of Photoshop. . .
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I have to keep editing my post because I keep finding more artillery pieces every time I look at the picture!! And who is going to load the rear-firing guns in flight?!?!
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Here are some fact's and history on this Russian Bomber.
Crank
Built in Russia during the 1930s, it flew 11 times before crashing and killing 15 people. The designer, Konstantin Kalinin, wanted to build two more planes but the project was scrapped. Later, Stalin had Kalinin executed.
Evidently, it was not good to fail on an expensive project under Stalin. It's got propellers on the back of the wings, too. You can count 12 engines facing front. The size would be equivalent to the Empire State Building on its side, with cannons.
And you think the 747 was big... not only a bunch of engines but check out the cannons the thing was carrying.
In the 1930s the Russian army was obsessed by the idea of creating huge planes.
At that time they were proposed to have as many propellers as possible to help carrying those huge flying fortresses into the air, jet propulsion has not been implemented yet.
Not many photos were saved from those times because of the high secrecy levels of such projects and because a lot of time has already passed.
Still, on the attached photos you can see one such plane - a heavy bomber K-7
Crank
Built in Russia during the 1930s, it flew 11 times before crashing and killing 15 people. The designer, Konstantin Kalinin, wanted to build two more planes but the project was scrapped. Later, Stalin had Kalinin executed.
Evidently, it was not good to fail on an expensive project under Stalin. It's got propellers on the back of the wings, too. You can count 12 engines facing front. The size would be equivalent to the Empire State Building on its side, with cannons.
And you think the 747 was big... not only a bunch of engines but check out the cannons the thing was carrying.
In the 1930s the Russian army was obsessed by the idea of creating huge planes.
At that time they were proposed to have as many propellers as possible to help carrying those huge flying fortresses into the air, jet propulsion has not been implemented yet.
Not many photos were saved from those times because of the high secrecy levels of such projects and because a lot of time has already passed.
Still, on the attached photos you can see one such plane - a heavy bomber K-7
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Interesting - they got all the props to stop in exactly the same position.
And with what looks like a Ryan STA in the background...
If they're gonna photoshop they ought to at least try to make it look realistic.
Andy
And with what looks like a Ryan STA in the background...
If they're gonna photoshop they ought to at least try to make it look realistic.
Andy
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Interesting - they got all the props to stop in exactly the same position.
And with what looks like a Ryan STA in the background...
If they're gonna photoshop they ought to at least try to make it look realistic.
Andy
Interesting - they got all the props to stop in exactly the same position.
And with what looks like a Ryan STA in the background...
If they're gonna photoshop they ought to at least try to make it look realistic.
Andy
Cees
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Crank,
Any comment's or suggestion's appreciated.
When it looks like a K-7 it is not always a K-7
Here are pictures of the real one, see below.
To finish your model you can have more information at RC Scale Aircraft I think, because this thread is about Classic PATTERN FLYING so the readers do not know much about the aircrafts (ducks!).
Cees
Any comment's or suggestion's appreciated.
When it looks like a K-7 it is not always a K-7
Here are pictures of the real one, see below.
To finish your model you can have more information at RC Scale Aircraft I think, because this thread is about Classic PATTERN FLYING so the readers do not know much about the aircrafts (ducks!).
Cees
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How are you folk's making out with the volcano ash ?
Crank for that we use our old European solution read:
The French War Ministry was impressed by Adler's achievement and commissioned him to produce a new plane. It took him five years to build the Avion III. Like the Ecole it had bat-shaped wings that had a span of 52.5 feet (16 m). Powered by two steam engines it had two tractor propellers.
These kind of propulsion can withstand some dust in the propulsion units and the pilot is already black after a flight anyway.
Cees
Crank for that we use our old European solution read:
The French War Ministry was impressed by Adler's achievement and commissioned him to produce a new plane. It took him five years to build the Avion III. Like the Ecole it had bat-shaped wings that had a span of 52.5 feet (16 m). Powered by two steam engines it had two tractor propellers.
These kind of propulsion can withstand some dust in the propulsion units and the pilot is already black after a flight anyway.
Cees
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Crank, I show you how careful we have to be with www information:
I read Ecole in the Italic text fragment copied from “somewhere”, but WRONG.
First plane with single steam plant propulsion of Clement Adler was Eole. (Ecole is “school” in French language)
Cees
I read Ecole in the Italic text fragment copied from “somewhere”, but WRONG.
First plane with single steam plant propulsion of Clement Adler was Eole. (Ecole is “school” in French language)
Cees
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I read Ecole in the Italic text fragment copied from “somewhere”, but WRONG.
First plane with single steam plant propulsion of Clement Adler was Eole. (Ecole is “school” in French language).
I read Ecole in the Italic text fragment copied from “somewhere”, but WRONG.
First plane with single steam plant propulsion of Clement Adler was Eole. (Ecole is “school” in French language).

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George
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George,
That's interesting to find out!
In the past I did see the Avion III in Paris, in a museum, and we do find both names Adler and Ader in the past and still now.
I do have an old book and will do some checks.
More to come.
Edit:
And find the picture in the book.
You are right Gearge, Ader seems to be the right name!
Edit2
Always looking for a double check,
When searching on the WWW I do find the names Rue Clement Ader, Place Clement Ader, often, combined with Adler a few.
Source "Spartacus Educational" WWW
Even before the Wrights proved that aircraft were possible, a French aviation pioneer was already looking at the possibilities of naval aviation. In his 1895 book L'Aviation Militaire, Clement Adler accurately described an aircraft carrier:
I think this is wrong!!
For me the name Ader is the right name just I learned as a 12 years old boy when I did find the book in a garbage collctor, thanks George.
Cees
That's interesting to find out!
In the past I did see the Avion III in Paris, in a museum, and we do find both names Adler and Ader in the past and still now.
I do have an old book and will do some checks.
More to come.
Edit:
And find the picture in the book.
You are right Gearge, Ader seems to be the right name!
Edit2
Always looking for a double check,
When searching on the WWW I do find the names Rue Clement Ader, Place Clement Ader, often, combined with Adler a few.
Source "Spartacus Educational" WWW
Even before the Wrights proved that aircraft were possible, a French aviation pioneer was already looking at the possibilities of naval aviation. In his 1895 book L'Aviation Militaire, Clement Adler accurately described an aircraft carrier:
I think this is wrong!!
For me the name Ader is the right name just I learned as a 12 years old boy when I did find the book in a garbage collctor, thanks George.
Cees




