Help Identifying pattern model
 

Hey all you Pattern experts. I'm trying to sell a plane for a friend. When he bought the model, he was told it is a Curare; so we've always though of it as and called it a Curare. I'm trying to sell on eBay, and the first questions was, "Are you sure that's a Curare?". I went to a web site that lists 100's of classic pattern planes with photos, and I didn't see a single model that looks exactly like what I have. Please take a look and see if you can positively identify this plane.

Major characteristics:
1. Upright engine mount.
2. tricycle landing gear,
3. small dorsal exhaust exit aft of canopy
4. no whachamacallit over the rudder (no non-moving part)
5. all glass fuse
6. slightly swept wing (trailing edge is not straight)
7. anhedral in horizontal stab
8. Fuselage length 53.5in. Wingspan 64.5in

RE: Help Identifying pattern model
 

Isnt this up on the bay right now?

FB

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Yes, I am the seller, and I need to get the name of the model right. After putting on eBay, I found it's not a Curare

Tom

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How about Atlanta 60?
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_10..._5/key_/tm.htmsee post#122. Looks pretty similar.

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Definitely not an Atlanta.

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Looks like a Skynight 6 by skyglass

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Pretty close Jetmech, but I don't think it's a skynight 6. Not from the pics I've been able to find of a skynight. Thanks for the input though. Hopefully we'll get to the bottom of this eventually.

Tom

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Hi,

Does it appear to be a kit or could it be a one time build only?

/Bo

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OH NO, Say it isn't so ! ! ! ! !......................[X(]

Someone has finally stumped the guys on this thread when it comes to identifying a pattern plane. It's the first time in all the years I've been in this thread..........LOL

Where is Ray (RFJ) when you need him ? ? ? ? ? ?:D

David

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Would you please supply the item number on auction ?

Thanks,

Crank

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Hi Crankpin,
item # 300592998985

Bem,
Don't know. It's a fiberglass fuse, sooooo... *shrug*

I've had one response to my e-mail braodcast where one "pattern expert" says it is "unquestionably a Curare". I have not been able to find a single photo of a Curare that looks anything like this model. Is it possible there are other versions of the Curare and no photos of them on the internet?

Tom

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Tom,

forget about it, you won't find any Curare pictures that look anything like your model. Often, people unfamiliar with classics see there is an anhedral stab, a tuned pipe and retracts and automatically say it's a Curare - probably because they don't know any other classic pattern models.

I could probably run off at least 10 different aspects of your model after looking at the pics for 10 seconds that don't conform with Hanno's design - it's not a Curare.

What it is I'm not sure but I strongly suspect it is an American or English design and original kit - unless it is a one off done by someone which is unlikely if it has a glass fuse. The swept back wing is a key aspect of the design as is that canopy which has a high point much further back than the vast majority of classics during the late 70's and 80's. I have the feeling it is a mid-70's design given the shape of the vertical and the upright engine configuration but the concealed pipe under the fuse dates it a little later. It is also possible that it was an earlier vintage kit which was built many years later with a few variations on the original design concept (e.g., the concealed pipe).

BTW, to answer you last question, yes, there is a larger sibling to the Curare called the Super Curare but it is very similar in design to the original - there are only few pictures of SC's on the net.

David.

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No. This is definately not a Curare. Curare is, er, ugly. It does look like an MK kit of some sort. It appears to be around the Beetle/Aurora era, the anhedral tailplane may be a 'builders mod'.
Evan, WB #12.

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It is a Galaxy. The design is Italian... the designer escapes me. How about it Bem, RFJ, Doxilia, Anyone???

Pattern image base photo of the galaxy:

[link]http://www.trentonrcflyers.com/pattern/galaxy-avi.jpg[/link]

Do I win the airplane for figuring it out??? :)

Brian

Beautiful airplane btw.... It is a shame to get rid of it. The new owner ought be one happy duck!

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Hi,

It is close but some differences that speaks against it is a Galaxy.
Se image below.

1. Underside of the nose on the Galaxy more rounded, "unknown" plane has a more pronounced arch (similar to a Curare).

2.Small balsa fill where aileron ends at wing root direction on Galaxy, not on unknown plane.

3. Fillet on the fuselage at wing root is more pronounced and strech longer towards leading edge direction on unknown plane then on Galaxy.

4. Above rudder a small piece stretch from fin on Galaxy, not of seen on unknown plane.

5. Canopy slope little more steep on Galaxy then on unknown plane in my opinion.

/Bo

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It's a mongrel.

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Do You mean it is a plane made by Mongrel Modelsor is the name of the plane Mongrel?
Or do You mean it is a mix of at least two models? (mongrel = *******, hybrid)

Edit: Funny - I wrote b a s t a r d (without spaces) and it was shown as4 stars.

/Bo

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mongrel as in two or more breeds of dog, origins unknown.

In australia we generally call that a 'bitza', you know, bitza (bits of) this, and some bitza that.

hehe b a s t a r d only contains 4 characters? My teachers always told me I couldn't count, :D

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Mmm...

if it wasn't for the tail plane - particularly the vertical (because the stab and wing planform could have been builders mods), I'd almost start wondering if it isn't a Deception sibling - an Exception. Or, it's other progeny (Double Vision, etc.). My pic database is down so I can't check. I think it has a fuse top front which is similar to the Exception but the rear is nothing like it.

Is the vertical built into the glass fuse?

David.

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Hey guys,
Ilikebipes... your guess and linked photo was very exciting. It is very close to a Galaxy. After looking up the Galaxy online, I noticed another difference. Supposedly, the Galaxy has a 56.5in wingspan while this model has a 65.5in wingspan. They look SO similar, that I thought perhaps the same person designed both. I looked up the designer etc, but couldn't find any other relevant information.

And I'd looove to keep it; pattern planes have always been my fav sinc eI was a kid. Butt it belongs to a buddy... and I'm guessing it's worth more than I can part with. :( Aaaaand... if I kept it, I'd have to learn more and become a better pilot and possibly enter into pattern competitions and travel... and on and on LOL

I'm trying to get some better photos. I'm charging my battery on a better camera. The pics on here were taken with my phone. Looks like we're getting down to the tiniest details.


Tom

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:D

I still like my answer the best... Hehe.

Brian

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The Galaxy is a Ruggiero Pasqualini design - ex Italian F3A champion.

Very nice model and kit by the way - just have to look up the other threads in the forum.

But it is not a Galaxy either. That vertical... there's something to it. It strikes me as the feature to use for reference. Unfortunately I'm not old enough... I'm just a kid :D We need someone who didn't go to primary school in the 70's.

David.

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Here's a new photo
Tom

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Damn it's close to a galaxi but unfortunately, no cigar.

Here's some pics of a recently re created galaxi kit. You'll notice the canopy/hatch lines are different and your fuselage has more of a belly aft of the wing, whereas the galaxi is flat at the wing TE.

http://images.rcuniverse.com/forum/u...22/Ge96726.jpg

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The sweep in the wing is different too.

Could it be a modified Galaxy?

Brian