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thank you, handglider

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and a mk arrow.

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Gee! Thanks for increasing the competition.

Terry in LP

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i think we all do that here for some reason.:eek:

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$1099 for the Arrow? Thats insane!

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So who's the Tipo 850 seller? Says he's an ex national champion with fading eyesight...

Nice Tipo kit though!

David.

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Yes it is, considering the Arrow fetches about $325, a Hanno NIB w/ pipe and header about $500 and the retracts...Well a member just gave a set away, used, but the price was right. I think you can get a new set on the auction site for under $100.
Yeah, at $1100 the seller is Really reaching.


DM

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Dave Brown? 80's were his hay days.

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cllaurit I'll bet your right...

Jason Shulman put together a list of AMA national champions in another thread and Dave Brown is listed as National Champion in 1982... :D

Flyin' a Tipo too... ;)

Here is a link to the thread I came across:
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_81...8126711/tm.htm
(see page 2 for the complete listing's)

How Kewl...

Chuck

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I doubt very much it's Dave. Who was the Nats Champ in 1982 in the other classes?

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Nats Champs 1982-

Masters... .....Dave Brown......Tiporare
Expert ..........Bob Akers .......Tiporare
Advanced..... Chip Hyde ....... Chip Ship
Sportsman.... Jeff Hannah......Compensator

Ray

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Guesstimate on the selling price. TF is right, it is not DB.

Crank

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well, the shipping is free.[X(]

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Well then that makes it a deal.

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Tiporare...how to put together a kit for less than $300.00

Tiporare epoxy glass fuselage $150.00 (call Rusty)
Tiporare wing/stab cores $60.00 - $75.00
Balsa wood $80.00
Total about $300.00

Add a set of used Rhom or Pro-Line retracts $55.00
Add a Webra Speed .61 pre-owned $120.00
Add a NIB Webra Speed .61 LS or YS LS Side exhaust $200

Rusty Dose
Team Futaba
Team YS Parts and Service
Editor "Classic Pattern-Trader"

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DB was the first name that came to mind naturally but it just didn't strike me as an auction ad posted by him. Although I haven't met DB, it just didn't strike me as his style. I can't recall the ad details but does it say that the owner was Nats champion in '82 specifically? If so, Ray has the answers for us.

The 850 was clearly a big bird at 70+" wing span and a 65" fuse! I'd say it's better suited to a 90 RE. Is Webra still making these? I think so...

David.

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He also says June 1982. Depending on when the event was held, would it not be possible for the 1981 champion to be the seller?

Andy

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Good point Andy.

Ray...?

Mmm... that Tipo sure would be nice but alas I don't own a 90 RE and don't expect to buy one any time soon. I do own an OS 90 SE which will have to find a home one of these days. Maybe the Super Skybolt would be a good fit at ~9 lbs AUW.

David.

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David,
The Skybolt would be awesome with your 90 2 stroke. I father and son, at our field, both had one each. They were.. Arfs. The planes look damn good and flew even better. Maybe I was a little bias, since I love Skybolts. Each one had a 120 4stroke, but I think the 2 stroke would be nice.


DM

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Nats Champs 1981 -

Masters..........Tony Bonetti...........Intrepid
Expert............Mike McConville......Tiporare
Advanced.......Kenneth Wilson.......Deception
Novice...........Jamie Crittenden.....Compensator

Ray

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Thanks Ray.

So any guesses anyone?

I doubt it's TB or MM. What about Novice and Advanced?

David.

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It just could the the person is lying?

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Hadn't thought about that. Wouldn't be fitting for a classic pattern fan - it's not our style... [8D]

Still... nice Tipo 850 - the figures are rising. Who's buying !?

David.

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Has anyone tried to email the seller??


DM

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When DB left World, he immediately started flying Futaba. Now this is as far as I remember, and do not remember the years. I left World in 1969, got married. I think I am right here. If Dave had this Tipo at his house, the last time I was there, I am sure he would have pulled it out and showed it. At that time, he was building a full scale 'One Design', just waiting on the powerplant. I was up there two years ago, had dinner with Dave, Sally and some other flying buddy's from those day's. If he had a Tipo for sale, some of us would have known about it. Mike M. or Tony F. may be able to put some solid info in here.

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well maybe we have caught the seller in a lie. that would be an interesting story to see unfold.

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I'm kind of wondering about that....
No city listed, he also says that he is using Ebay as his business now.
I guess we'll find out when Crank gets word. If he was a competitor and doesn't want to talk/share stories about his acomplishments, that would be a first.


DM

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we could all ask him assorted questions over there.:D

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I don't expect an answer. I will make a couple of call's tomorrow. Not that this matter's, but interesting. The last Tipo that was auctioned, hit $377, and did not have history. Maybe this one does. Expect $610.00+

Rusty has all that is needed for a Tipo for sale, less then $300.00. I will let you guy's know what come's up. I am sure the seller is reading our post's, havin' a little fun. The 377 Tipo picture here, it was in kit form.
Crank

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This plane is the Hippo Tipo. The pipe indent in the fuse gives it away.
Mark

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Was wondering when someone would say it out loud.

Terry in LP

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Thanks for correcting me Mark. I was a little puzzled that even with an assumed area (on my part) of 850 squares, it would have a span of 73" and a length of 65". With that span it has to have well over 900 squares! I assumed it was an 850 because I recall the pictures below and hearing that the foreground model was an 850 while the rear model (presumably identical to the one on auction) was a modified version of it but essentially of the same size.

In short, not having pictures of the complete Tipo lineup over time (despite your abundant help on this in the past), I called it incorrectly.

The question that I have now is: Does the Hippo in these pictures have a RE Webra 60 or something else? Hard to imagine a model this size flying well on a 60. They must build to around 9-10 lbs. I guess there were several other large 6' planes built with 60's.

David.

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Maybe Dick Hanson will jump in here with some input. Nice kit!

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OK. I sent two message's thru the site 'message subject box'. Both msg's were opened and answered. Answer: BLANK, NOTHING.

I listed RFJ's Nat's winner's for 1981 & 1982, looking for a comment. Mystery man I guess. Since Rusty is a Futaba rep, and the seller is describing his relationship with Futaba, maybe he can find out. More later.

Crank

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Whoa!

We'd make for a good bunch of CP researchers! I'm glad it's hard to get any mistakes past our crew.

It'd be nice to hear the plain facts from the seller - just to satisfy our curiosity. :)

David.

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Looking at feedback the seller is addressed as "Steve" in a transaction dated 7-22-09 and again on 6-4-09 yet again on 5-21-09. I stopped looking then. Buyers do discover the seller in the PayPal process.

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Mystery seller of the Tipoare 850?

I have no idea who it is and would contact the seller via Buy-Bay as you have tried. The pink airplanes pictured a few threads ago are more than likely Donny Weitz's, former manager of Circus Hobbies, great guy and pilot.

Powering the larger models? I flew the latest iteration of the Tiporare in 1989/90 powered by an O.S. .61 rear exhaust with pump (?) and it was able to do everything of the time including gigantic knife loops.

Rusty Dose
Team Futaba

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Steve Helms ??? Check the date's.

Crank

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Hi,

The engine in the photo does appear to be a piped rear exhaust Webra Racing 61F or the long stroke racing 61F LS. It definitely has the Dynamix slide carburettor or something that looks very much like one! It's definitely a two stroke. Now .61cu.in. (10cc) was the two stroke engine capacity F3A rule limit in those days so the plane was definitely designed for, and flew well with, that size of engine.

Webra didn't make a rear exhaust two stroke aero engine larger than .61 in the early eighties when the last versions of the Tiporare were designed. But they did replace the Racing 61 F with a Racing 80F after the rules changed in the early nineties. The Racing 80F can easily be told apart from the Racing 61F by the much wider cylinder head and cooling fins. The engine in the picture is definitely not an 80F. I am told by the Webra representative here that the Racing 80F piston and liner can be retrofitted in a Racing 61F LS but have not verified this myself. It could be possible that the engine in the picture is a Racing 61F LS with 80F internals but I think that's unlikely. An 80 would need to spin a larger prop than the one I see in the picture, too. The one in the picture looks like a coarse pitch 11 prop as was used on 60 size pattern engines in the day.

Best regards.

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Whatever you do, if your the winning buyer, make sure you leave him feedback! :)

We should start a pool on what the final number is. Pretty rare find for the Tipo purist...

Sean