Some polite clarification , here. The Lil' Satan ( and Junior Satan)were designed & kitted by Carl Goldberg .The Voodoo - designed by Riley Wooten. Neither plane(s) have anything in common with each other.
The Super Satan ( Tapered)was designed by Larry Scarinzi during 1966-67 and never kitted . It followed Larry's Killer , Giant Killer and straight winged Super Satan. It appeared on the cover of M.A.N. in Sept. 1967. Recently , a kit cutter did a batch of them.

Frank
1969 Senior National Combat Champion, Willow Grove , Pa.
Designer of the '"Scrambler"
M.A.N.- Jan.1972

"The Lil' Satan ( and Junior Satan)were designed & kitted by Carl Goldberg .The Voodoo - designed by Riley Wooten. Neither plane(s) have anything in common with each other. "

This is entirely true with one exception... They were both kitted by Carl Goldberg Models. And true to the art of advertising, the name Goldberg is remembered most of all and not Riley Wooten though he is clearly given credit for his design in the ad.

Robert

Exactly.....Saved me some typing!

VooDoo was development of the Quicker that was kitted by California models.
Dad flew Quickers at the end his 1st combat life.
Few years later I started with VooDoos and won the Shreveport state champs with one. Then Sneekers, Winders, Spectrums and then my own designs.

Ouicker and Voo Doo by Riley Wooton.
The Super Satan was by Larry Scaringie(spl?)

Frank
I remember the Scrambler.
I may remember it influencing something in one of my designs????????......can you post the plans?
The dummy in me burned all my old magazines.

David

I don't fly combat, but Iam starting a new blog which contains my modeling endevours and one of my contributers is Dennis, AMA353 who, from the accompanying picture, has obvioulsy been at it awhile in some pretty gnarly conditions. I'm posting the pic here 'cuz it mentioned one of Riley Wooten's designs. Check out the blog and makes some contributions/comments!
www.btnflyguy.wordpress.com

Frank

What help do you need on the plans?

Amazing how nicely built a combat plane comes out now the we have aged slightly. The ones I have built in recent years are to nice for competition. The way it hurts to fly one just for fun now days..........well stunt fits me better now.
My last Nats and serious competition flying was 1975, last year as a Sr.
Flew one last time in 79 in open with some borrowed and heavy airplanes(Dads, He was CD that event).
4 years with out even a practice flight and won 1st over Stubblefield and Buckstaff.
Stub is still flying and winning and Buck moved on to that flying circle in the sky.

BtnFlyGuy
Is that possibly a T Square to the left in the pic?
Possibly a 1/2 fast to the right( hard to see any details)

Have a California Quicker and a good Torp GH.35 that I hope Dad will build one day.
At 74 he thinks he is to old to fly it.

Any one remember the Lazer?
I remembered the designers name the other day and now poof! gone again........memories.

David

Hello David!
Since the photo did not originate with me, I'd direct you to "Dennis":
[email protected] for questions
Get a look at that AMA number!
Do me a favor and all of you who read these posts, Check my blog:
BtnFlyGuy'sBlog
send me your pics and anecdotes regarding the same or "anything" control line during the "golden age", that being up to about 1980 so I can flesh the thing out!.
[email protected]

(No I'm not selling anything, I'm just trying to get your stories before they slip away)
J.troy

Send me a p.m.

For anyone interested I ran across a double Voodoo kit on that big auction site. Looks brand new inside and out. In case anyone wants see it the item number is 260551130647

Robert

Big auction site... I like that.
I checked it out and there are three full planes in that auction, one box, according to the seller.

This was my Dad's favorite C/L plane. He's still got his old Fox 35 he used to run in it.

Sorry, I didn't really look that close and didn't read any of the text. I'm not one to promote any one persons sales, but if I know there is extra interest in a model, engine, tool or whatever and I am familiar with an assosiated thread, I just feel like it sort of ties things together.

There are nice pictures and the condition looks fine too.

Robert

As long as we're getting all nostalgic...(September, 1955)
From my Blog.

this brings back a lot of old memories, first kit i built was a pair of lil satins ,then voodoos, sneakers ,nemasis,the engines were fox combat specials and super tiger G21,35, babby pasifiers for fuel tanks,thes planes would run around 100 mph to 110 mph,then foam wings cam into the picture, engines fox mark 6 combat special with a lot of modifactions could reach speeds of low 130s mph,surgical tubing worked for fuel tanks,and pressure regulators helped to needle the high pressure of the surgical tubing for a fuel tank, the planes were 450sq in wings to 500 sq in wings, if you were a good builder you could keep the weight around 18 to 19 oz with engine, we use to carv or on props, then apc came into the picture. and arrow shafts for booms, the last planes i built were a cross between rich brashes rotation station and allen devues arrow plane, guys like rich brasher and norm mcfadden were ahead of there time, norm was a great engine guy and flew a plane called a cream sicle. i got to fly against the best, like mike wilcox and his dad, the stubblefields howard rush, rich lopez, mike petri, I learned a lot from a couple guys i flew with, bruce coffee and jim womack , the last year i flew control combat i built 106 planes between fast combat and 1/2 combat THANKS FOR THE WALK DOWN MEMORY LANE.

I decided to put together a laser cut kit of the Voodoo.
If anybody is interested, PM me.
Thanks
Bob

Isn't the Voodoo being kitted by blackhawk models under the name Demon? I built my voodoo from plans. Are the Voodoo and Demon defferent planes?

Yes, Blackhawk kits the Demon. It is not the same plane as the VooDoo though roughly the same size. The Demon used a 'diamond' airfoil and back in the '80's, Riley was selling kits of a slow-combat plane (through LoneStar Balsa) that used the same wing in a profile fuse IIRC called the "Diamond Demon". I think that the Demon predates the VooDoo.

I have an original Voodoo up in the attic, along with a Fox 19 c/l and an Irvine 40 that I last flew it with. It needs some covering and the center engine mount, but certainly can fly again. If nothing else, you could replicate another exactly with a full scale example. I built it from the kit and last flew it in '89. If anyone wants it, let me know.

The Fox 19 running a few months ago:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3fgjeJ_P6w

I guess, but there was a reason that they offered a 2 pack of the planes. I could only afford 1 motor, so I would bring 2 airframes and 1 motor to an event. My favorite engine was a Torpedo 29 with a rear rotary valve intake. The head had no fins and it needed alot of nitro, but it was a screamer. I wish I had that motor today.
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Here is mine plans built engine is Super Tigre Combat 35!!!!!!!! The video was the first flight

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_r0fN2YQq5M

In an earlier post, I incorrectly stated that Riley got 25 cents for each Voodoo kit sold. I have since asked him about it. He told me he got 5 cents per kit. The first year he got a check for $5000, and similar checks for several succeeding years. So a lot of Voodoo kits were sold. I was at the hobby shop in Lubbock when Riley brought in the painted up Voodoo for the box art.

C.35 or G-21 .35 ?
Sounded like a C thats not broken in and has needle to lean.
Or its a fresh G-21 being very rapidly cooked.
Non Castor fuel?

Airplane looks good!Nice work!

David

Its a C35 thats was not fully broke in. Its broke in now I run 5% nitro 29% all castor and a 9x7 APC. That run I found the the NVA was loose caused it to run a bit lean

I also have a voodoo powered by a Fox rocket .35 on a bladder, a great combo that`s a blast to fly.
there is a short video on my site
Thanks
Dwayne
www.dwayne111.webs.com