cheers all, been thinking about flying c/l again, its been about 16years since I last had fun with it untill r/c and full scale took over. The disneyland thread really stirred my interest since my 1st go at c/l was a cox PT-19 chasing me back when I was 7 yrs old. I actually flew for real in about 1976 with a 1/2A warbird profile. and 16yrs ago with a ringmaster and banshee that I remember wearing out a couple of fox .35s. I have a couple of questions , first one being I'd like to get my 11yo son flying with me and know he's gonna destroy a plane or two(I probably will too.) what would be the best and cheapest plane to start him out on. I really don't care for 1/2A no offense but I think they're too small to learn on. I was thinking of more a .19 size kit from sig (I don't mind building). Also how do you condition yourself for flying, I remember getting puking dizzy the first time I flew the ringmaster 16yrs back and was fortunate I had someone in the circle with me to hand off to. I've been searching for clubs or groups here in the Houston/ Clearlake are but haven't been too lucky finding anything. Sorry to bore you, I appreciate any advice and look forward to getting in the ring again.
Steve

Texas has quite a few control line modelers. Go to www.stunthanger.com and look around a bit. Or post this same message.
Bob Furr

North to Nebraska (feels like Alaska here this week!)....

Welcome back!

Yes head off to the above link: There is a lot more information there!

Also, consider going to a larger airplane, .40 sized on 62-64 foot lines will really slow it down for you.

Have fun!

Ya know to get back into the hobby a OS 25 or even OS 20 on one of the Tower/Top Flite ARF Flite Streaks is not a bad way to go. It is a bit lightly built but as long as you avoid hitting the ground it will last 100s of flights and if you do crash it isnt too hard to fix or simply replace for the price.
Bob

I second the ARF Flite Streak with an OS 15, 20, 25. Easy to fly, fix or replace. The lap times will be 5 seconds at least on 60 footers, slow enough for quick acclimation.
Chris...

Welcome back! That makes two of us this year and both Texans (though Ilive in MAnow).
I agree that if you want to get into the air quickly, an ARF is probably the way to go, but you seem to have quite some experience as a builder in RC, so Imight suggest starting a build project for the winter, even though your winters are hardly snowed in like ours. There are boodles of planes and plans to choose from and the price pint is about the same. Engines abound on EBay and there's plenty of help here. Ilike .15's - .19's because of their slightly smaller size for building space and transportablity.
One trick to not getting a premium ride on the puke-o-matic is to switch focus between the plane and some object in the distance. As the plane comes around, pick a spot past your plane and focus on that as your plane passes through your peripeheral vision and hold it until the plane is about to pass exit that "window". Practice doing this to reduce the "spinach flying by" effect and shortly you won't have to think about it, it will become natural. Of course I'd suggest this only during upright periods of straight and level flight and not during an attempted outside square loop, in whihc ase ya might want to concentrate on the plane in question. You really want to be in full concentration and focused on it as it augers in.

Again, welcome back! I appear a couple of other threads here, so take a glance!)

Steve,

Your choice of a .15-.19 size plane is a good one since an 11 year old may find larger engines intimidating. For that size you may consider a SIG Akromaster. I have an old Fox .15 in one, and a modern .10 in another. Check the forums for Akromaster to read the full discussions and recommendations.

If you go a little larger, in addition to the Flite Streak ARF you might consider the SIG Skyray 35, which flies well on a OS .25. It has plywood ribs for greater strength but I substituted balsa ribs in both full and half rib positions. Now I have a BUNCH of rib templates! Your choice.

For dizziness, some folks simulate flight by reaching their hand out as if flying and turn around. This will lessen the dizziness during actual flight. As you fly more, the dizziness goes away.

As a guess, you may have used RC fuel in those Foxes and flew them to a premature death. The Fox .35 should have about 25%-28% lube, some or all castor. Most RC fuel seems to have in the 16%-18% range (with exceptions). If you still have those Foxes, switching to an all-castor fuel of sufficent percentage may restore some compression. Plan B is that Fox still makes them...and parts for them.

If you have any RC engines in the appropriate size, you can wire the throttles open for CL use.

You might also want to check into the available foamies for trainers. I know Phil Cartier at COREHOUSE still makes 'em. There may be others.

Lots of choices.

George

Thanks for the great advice and tips. I ran the foxes on r/c fuel til they were cooked, I know better now
I will probably get an arf to get started sooner and a kit for later. Hope to be out there flying soon.
cheers

Also remember that any RC model that weighs under 20 lbs can be converted to CL. I recently bought a very ugly RC trainer with an engine for $25 at recent auction and have converted this model to CL to teach some kids how to fly. All of my CL scale models started out as a RC kit that was converted to CL scale.

Good luck....