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KIRK1950 04-14-2015 07:26 AM

Does anyone have this Pulse Jet Engine referance book?
 
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Does anyone have a copy of the 103 page book titled "Russian Pulse Jet Engines and Pulse Jet Powered Airplanes, 1948-1958"? The book is no longer in print, since the Rocket Science Institute no longer sells it through EBay or Amazon.

I am primarily interested in the attached delta-wing speed jet plan (upper plan) which is reportedly in the book, but all I have is this miniscule, illegible copy. A Xerox copy or a scan would be great, but I could buy a book if someone has one available.http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/atta...mentid=2089121

Thanks!
Kirk

qazimoto 04-17-2015 06:29 AM


Originally Posted by KIRK1950 (Post 12022182)
Does anyone have a copy of the 103 page book titled "Russian Pulse Jet Engines and Pulse Jet Powered Airplanes, 1948-1958"? The book is no longer in print, since the Rocket Science Institute no longer sells it through EBay or Amazon.

I am primarily interested in the attached delta-wing speed jet plan (upper plan) which is reportedly in the book, but all I have is this miniscule, illegible copy. A Xerox copy or a scan would be great, but I could buy a book if someone has one available.http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/atta...mentid=2089121

Thanks!
Kirk

It's not really a Delta winged model, they don't have a separate tailplane, but the two plans look to me like they're out of one of the Aeromodeller Annuals published in the UK right up to the late 1970's I believe.

Digitised copies are avail online at either the Hippocket or Zoe Quilter/Colin Usher's site.

KIRK1950 04-17-2015 10:56 AM

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Qazimoto;http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/atta...mentid=2089863

No luck on a plan at Hip Pocket or Outerzone, which usually do not have Russian designs. Some guy in the Ukraine has a copy of the book, but wants $50 for it...nice guy.

Yep, design is a semi-delta. I am looking for something unusual for a German Hurrican-Jet engine. Here is a photo along side a Dyna Jet Red Head.

Cheers,
Kirk

qazimoto 04-17-2015 04:03 PM


Originally Posted by KIRK1950 (Post 12024089)
Qazimoto;http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/atta...mentid=2089863

No luck on a plan at Hip Pocket or Outerzone, which usually do not have Russian designs. Some guy in the Ukraine has a copy of the book, but wants $50 for it...nice guy.

Yep, design is a semi-delta. I am looking for something unusual for a German Hurrican-Jet engine. Here is a photo along side a Dyna Jet Red Head.

Cheers,
Kirk

Kirk,

no I couldn't find either the book, or the plans in the old Aero modeller Annuals. I did find lots of other interesting things though.

I'm sure I've seen them before, I just can't place it. I'll keep an eye out though.

Have you tried posting on the Barton site" There's some friendly folks there with good English from the old Eastern Bloc Countries who may be able to help.

Good luck,

Ray

qazimoto 04-17-2015 04:10 PM

Kirk,

Just another thought, When I magnify the Scale on the forst drawing, it seems that it starts at zero, then 10, 20, etc. up to 100mm.

That would make the "nose" length 100 mm from it's tip to the intersection of the two leading edges.

How does that fit with your expectations?

Ray

KIRK1950 04-18-2015 04:26 AM

Ray;

Your magnifying resolution might be better than mine. I was thinking it might read 30mm from the nose to the LE, which might put the plane length at around 100mm. It looks like the wing cord is two-digits and reads 30, but I could very well be wrong.

I am not dead-stuck on this design, but it is difficult to find any deltas or semi-deltas that do not use the 34" long Russian engines with the fuel tanks integral in the front engine cowl. In the USA, it seems like the deltas never took hold and were deemed as too heavy. I am certainly open to any other designs out there.

Kirk

qazimoto 04-18-2015 05:54 AM


Originally Posted by KIRK1950 (Post 12024476)
Ray;

Your magnifying resolution might be better than mine. I was thinking it might read 30mm from the nose to the LE, which might put the plane length at around 100mm. It looks like the wing cord is two-digits and reads 30, but I could very well be wrong.

I am not dead-stuck on this design, but it is difficult to find any deltas or semi-deltas that do not use the 34" long Russian engines with the fuel tanks integral in the front engine cowl. In the USA, it seems like the deltas never took hold and were deemed as too heavy. I am certainly open to any other designs out there.

Kirk

Kirk,

id the pulse-jet it's self is 34" long can't you just scale the aircraft accordingly?

Ray

qazimoto 04-19-2015 04:49 AM

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Kirk,

I'm guessing that you've found the online image at:

http://rocketsciencebooks.com/books/russian-pulsejets/


When I enlarge it, the scale became a little clearer.

Accordingly the scale shows that the nose is 300mm long and the maximum wing chord is 250mm.

It should be easy to scale it up given these dimensions.


http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/atta...p;d=1429447614



Regards Ray.

KIRK1950 04-21-2015 02:51 AM

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Hi Ray;

Wow...nice job tweaking the image! Many thanks for your help!

This should be easy to modify to the right proportions. Will still look for the book though; some of these 1950-60's Russian designs intrigue me.

Here is my 10" wingspan Lil' Hot Canary with a 13" long, 1955 German Aristo-Jet engine, the same company who made the Hurrican-Jet. The pink color is a tribute to a friend's full-size H.C. thttp://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/atta...mentid=2090757hat broke loose in 1962 and tried to fly through a metal chain link fence.

Cheers,
Kirk


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