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Old 11-06-2005, 07:09 PM
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Default Stall during turn = Decathalon tore apart.

Well, I had fun with her. Maybe got 25 flights out of her. Taught me about stalls when you pull too hard without sufficient airspeed. I was turning back from downfield. It stalled briefly when I pulled a little to hard during the turn and it rolled right, so I nosed down to build airspeed, but simply not enough altitude. Just as I tried to gently pull out to avoid CFIT (controlled flight into terrain), it stalled again. It was either pull out too hard and stall it, or don't pull hard enough and dive into the ground.

Didn't hit hard, really, but in just the wrong way. I take full responsibility, and will launch an immediate investigation.

As you can tell by the last picture, my daughter's face tell's the story.

I will not repair this one. Will build and fly another tho!
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Old 11-06-2005, 07:15 PM
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BUMMER that is tore up. Sorry for the loss
Old 11-06-2005, 07:36 PM
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OMG [X(] I am sorry for your loss super decathlons are beautiful looking planes but i have been told they have some nasty habbits.
onece again sorry for your loss.
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Old 11-06-2005, 07:42 PM
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<<OMG I am sorry for your loss super decathlons are beautiful looking planes but i have been told they have some nasty habbits.
onece again sorry for your loss. >>

Yes, Paul, it was a beautiful plane. It sells as a 40 size, but after its first few flights, I could tell it was way underpowered with an Evolution 40, so i put a 60 in it, and even that was only just enough. It has a real big wide fuselage that pushes a lot of air. It slows down quickly after a dive.

Thanks for the thoughts!
Old 11-06-2005, 08:43 PM
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hahaha.....the pictures in the cockpit are hilarious
Old 11-06-2005, 11:18 PM
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So scrappy what field do you fly at?
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Old 11-07-2005, 12:31 AM
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Wow, ...sorry for your loss!!
Was that a kit, and if it was, which one? I had a Great Plane decathlon and it was....a scarry bird to fly, nice to build but a bit vicious in the air...Spin took three turns and a lot of reverse controls to recover, and accelerated stall and secondary stalls were not unusual at all
I striped it down, new cvering, new paint and sold it.
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Old 11-07-2005, 04:24 AM
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OMG you killed your family!!!!! Those pictures are very fitting when stalling and nosing into the ground!!!! Its like the moment before the crash they froze! Pretty funny but poor plane []
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<<So scrappy what field do you fly at?>>

Dennis,

I'm looking for a field to fly at. Just found out about Hilltoppers, in Sumpter, near Belleville. Right now I fly at Elwell Elementary's soccer field, with permission from the school (after hours, of course), and at a private farm near Dexter.
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<<Was that a kit, and if it was, which one? I had a Great Plane decathlon and it was....a scarry bird to fly, nice to build but a bit vicious in the air...S>>

It was an ARF from Seagull Planes. Really beautiful, excellent quality for the price. It wasn't so difficult to fly so much, it was more about my inexperience.
Old 11-07-2005, 07:56 AM
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Pull back you go up....pull back harder you come down...
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that's where i fly at hill toppers. they meet the first thursday of the month at the sumpter community center next to the police department at 7:00 p.m.
Old 11-07-2005, 02:52 PM
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ORIGINAL: jlkonn

Pull back you go up....pull back harder you come down...
Right on, JL. Right on. Thats a good way to put it.
Old 11-08-2005, 09:48 AM
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scrappycat....When I have noted high speed stalls in turns I consider adjusting the elevator to allow less movement.
Old 02-21-2006, 09:27 PM
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Default RE: Stall during turn = Decathalon tore apart.

dunno what your on about vicious tendencies... my dad has a 108" ( i think. around that. just trust me. it's BIG) with a zenoah G62 up front. it's bloody lovely to fly. does anything, fly slow as without stalling. feel sorry for you guys having not flown it.

later


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Old 02-22-2006, 10:08 AM
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Looks like the kids are all smiles so I guess they're ok. I wouldn't suggest they ride in another one of your planes if you continue to use that type of pushrod hookup (EZ type connectors) at the servo arm for other than a throttle linkage. That's an accident waiting to happen if you ask me.

Sorry about your loss of such a nice plane.

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Old 02-24-2006, 02:56 PM
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ORIGINAL: richohealey

dunno what your on about vicious tendencies... my dad has a 108" ( i think. around that. just trust me. it's BIG) with a zenoah G62 up front. it's bloody lovely to fly. does anything, fly slow as without stalling. feel sorry for you guys having not flown it.

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I never said anything about vicious I said "nasty" if you do not have much experience stay away from it. and as with all planes the bigger they are usually the better they fly.
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Default RE: Stall during turn = Decathalon tore apart.

i had a H9 twist with about 200 hard filghts on it(high G/ now Retired)
and those e-conecters were all i used on both ends
on all surfaces, not one failure...Just got lucky would you say?
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ORIGINAL: CrashPro

hahaha.....the pictures in the cockpit are hilarious

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Default RE: Stall during turn = Decathalon tore apart.

Scrappy,

Have you checked out Milan yet ? They fly near Plank & US23. I need to go to a field to get a little training help. I've got one plane that keeps getting beat HARD !! It seems to take it pretty good though. A little glue and Mono coat and she's up again. I've been out in the corn fields trying to get some time in. I've got little ones at home and the wife in school so its a little hard to get out. Next time I crash , I'll put a pic online !!

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D ,

Is that over by the Sunoco station ?

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Seen a couple of Seagull Super Decathlons-neither owner liked them much. They were underpowered with a 46 and I could see why... they are heavy. Next time you might try the Thunder Tiger S/D. Though they cost a little more, they are lighter, prettier and they fly great with a 46
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Old 03-11-2006, 09:59 AM
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Default RE: Stall during turn = Decathalon tore apart.

Hi Andy,

Yes, I did visit Milan's field one time. Seemed real nice. The folks at Riders in Ypsilanti/Ann Arbor go there. It's a little further from my house than Hilltoppers. If you are close enough, check out Hilltoppers. There isn't a dang tree for miles, and you are literally on top of a hill. Great for unobstructed flying!

Mike
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Default RE: Stall during turn = Decathalon tore apart.

Wing,

<<Seen a couple of Seagull Super Decathlons-neither owner liked them much. They were underpowered with a 46 and I could see why... they are heavy.>>

I agree. My first couple of crashes were tip stalls on take off, not waiting long enough for airspeed. But even once up, it was lethargic, definitely underpowered. I do not consider this an intermediate plane (that was how it was sold to me) when it is underpowered.

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Mike,

I pass HillToppers on my way home from work. I can get to Milan in 10 minutes or Sumtper in about 25. I need to get a new Radio , mines an old wide band AM , not very welcome !! LOL I do like the idea of no trees, I can hit a tree no matter how fast it runs.

Andy

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