hey, just bought my first heli. Newbie to this stuff, been with rc cars. Anyways, when I start up the CP, it flys in all sorts of directions. I am trying to get it to hover. What should I do? I try adjusting the trims.

Not to be a smart butt, but thats what they do... is there someone you know who has flown them before or a flying club nearby ??? If its trimmed well, and assuming its new its not too far off... (they do a pretty good job at factory with initial settings from what Ive seen).

When you lift off it should require some rudder (usually about 20-30% left (less the higher you get), once its off and up a bit you should need to balance it gently like a marble on a glass table top... if it feels like that then its right. Have you had much experience with RC of flown non CP hel;is before ???

Never flown a heli. Driven RC cars. I just expceted it to hover effortlessly after giving it full throttle. I didn't know u had to balance it like a marble. My settings must be correct then.

hey...well...it takes alot of practice...u kinda have to counter act what the heli does when u give it throttle...if upon take off it wants to tilt back...give some forward collective on the stick to balance it out...with a ccpm heli u r always on the sticks...unfortunatly u cant just let it hover lol...just takes time...key thing is to give tiny stik movements...otherwise..when u counteract u have to counteract ur counteraction...(if that makes sence) then u end up panicing and crashing...so make tiny movements and take baby steps...youll get it after a few broken parts and a few battery packs...

PS ur name has a striking resemblance to sum1 i know lol...youll know who i am if this is who i think it is....if not...well this is just a big coincadence lol

Ok, I will try that. So my settings are ok. I will try to keep balancing it. The videos I see of people flying their cp's look so effortless. I guess it isn't. Thanks Are there any guides anywhere to flying and setting up this heli?

yea...there is actually... www.bladecprepair.com is great...and also if u search a few pages back on this forum u will find a whole thing on setting up this heli...will be vry long so ull know when u found it...ill get u a link if i have time...and theres also Rads school of flight...search around ull find it...happy flights man...peace

You might want to check this out, too. Read through it and then go out and try it. You'll be amazed.
http://www.dream-models.com/eco/flying-index.html

another consideration might be trading your CP in and getting the CX to learn on. The CP for a first heli is going to be hard to learn with. Not impossible but more than a little tough. I learned on the CX after a year of flying planes and I couldnt imagine learning a CP straight off. But if youre going to stick with the CP I wish you luck and advise you to read all the CP info on the forums. The guys here are a huge help.

thanks for the info guys. Yeah, i am a newbie at heli's.

As much as people say the CP is a beginner helicopter, it really isn't. In fact, it's probably the most ill handling micro heli on the market. I've seen a large number of people turned off to helis because they started of with the CP. I think the main reason why people say the CP is a beginner heli is because it is ready to fly out of the box versus requiring assembly.

One thing you have to understand is the smaller the heli, the harder it will be to fly (all things being equal). The larger and heavier the heli is, the more stable it is which in turn makes it easier to fly. Another thing you have to understand is with a heli, you are ALWAYS flying it unlike a plank (fixed wing aircraft) or a surface model (car/truck/boat). Helis don't fly/hover themselves. Without constant pilot input, they become "dirt missles" almost instantly. There is an old saying in the heli world, "my first heli was a (insert model here), my second was a simulator!". If you're serious about helis, get yourself a good simulator and fly the heck out of it. I have the RealFlight G3 and it is fantastic. A good simulator is an invaluable tool in learing how to fly a heli. I also recommend a set of training gear for your CP. It's also a good idea to try and find experienced heli pilots in your area who are willing to help as well. This can make a HUGE difference in your learing curve. Another thing required by a would-be heli pilot is patience. Without it, you'll end up smashing your heli with a hammer in frustration before you even learn to tail-in hover.

Good luck.

Dirt missle... priceless...

Yea helis shouldnt even fly... they are trying to spin themsleves into oblivion and use centrifcal forces to BARELY allow us to keep them in control. If it werent for Gyros they wouldnt be any fun at all...

FYI when I fly a fixed wing, I use about 10% of brain and concentration... when I fly the heli I use about 80%... It takes everything I have to stay ahead of heli at this point... but getting easier with every flight I sont say *&%&^$%&^^(&%%

Reminds me of a couple sayings...

Helicopters can't fly, they're just so ugly the earth repels them.

and...

Helicopters don't fly, they beat the air into submission.

Is it worth upgrading the batteries, getting twin tail motors or any other upgrade? Or should I just learn to fly first? Those upgrades won't make it easier?

This is just my oppinion but I think its always best to try fly any new machine stock until you getreally used to it THEN upgrade when you need more performance. I cant answer this for sure but I dont think the enhancements make it easier to fly for newer pilots. If anything it makes the heli more sensitive which is something I know Im not ready for at this stage in learning to fly the CP. I think enhancements are for the more experienced pilots looking to ENHANCE their flying experience. But like I said just my Oppinion and my wife likes slapping me in the head when I sometimes give my oppinion.

With an 8T pinion, flat blades, and 3S Lipo, it is actually MUCH easier to fly than with the stock setup. It is much smoother, and the tails wanders around less since there is abundant power for both motors at all times.

In my opinion, as soon as you can routinely hover the stock battery pack dead, you should upgrade. With an 8T pinion, and a Thunder Power 3S 1320mah, I am getting 25+ minute flight times, and the heli behaves much better.