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Old 01-04-2007 | 11:39 AM
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I have had a CX2 for about a month and can fly it very well. I am just wondering how hard it will be to step up to a CPP.
Old 01-04-2007 | 12:19 PM
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It's not more difficult, but it takes more patience. I had the Blade CX for 2 weeks before I sold it and bought a CPP.

The 1st day I tried to fly the CPP, I almost took it back to the LHS. It seemed incredibly difficult to control and I could not hover (if you could call it that) for more than a few seconds.

I just kept at it, hovering incrementally second by second until placing it down, until I felt somewhat comfortable with the controls. Then one day I decided to just lift it about 4 feet and I was able to hover for several minutes without too much trouble (although it looked ugly).

Now after just a few months I'm into forward flight in all orientations (except 3D). And to top it off, I just built my T-Rex 450se and am now starting the learning process over again.

Most people will recommend following RADD's school of flight. To me it was boring, so I charged ahead. It cost me more $$ in repairs, but that's just the way I chose to learn.

Whichever learning method you choose, I do highly recommend the training gear, especially in the early phases of trimming.
Old 01-04-2007 | 12:19 PM
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It will be very hard for about a day. Then it will be a lot easier, as you get used to the sensitivity of the controls. Get some good batteries for the transmitter and an extra battery for the heli, you won't want to wait for recharges you'll be having so much fun.
Even if you are good with the CX2 it would be a good idea to review RADD's with the new heli.
Have fun!!!
Old 01-05-2007 | 12:20 AM
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Get training gear and take your time


CX ---> CP Pro ---- Now T-Rex
Old 01-05-2007 | 08:51 PM
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/me hijacks thread [:-]

i am also learning to fly my cp , today was the first time i actually hovered it without buying new blades after lol

My question is like this... when im hovering and move the right stick any direction,it seems to stay in that direction until i compensate.this cant be right[] or is it????

my cx-2 is still teaching me too! the CP was my original chopper...i couldnt fly it at all so i bought a cx-2 and got pretty good, my next 2 batteries on my CP will be the most interesting [8D]
Old 01-05-2007 | 09:13 PM
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ORIGINAL: --}--{

/me hijacks thread [:-]

i am also learning to fly my cp , today was the first time i actually hovered it without buying new blades after lol

My question is like this... when im hovering and move the right stick any direction,it seems to stay in that direction until i compensate.this cant be right[] or is it????

my cx-2 is still teaching me too!
By "it" which "it" are you referring to? If you mean the stick stays, that is unusual, they usually have centering springs.
If by "it" you mean the helicopter keeps going, maybe that can't be right, but that is the way it is. That is the very definition of neutral stability, and it is just what you want an aerobatic aircraft to do.
To keep it in one place against the gusts and pilot-induced turbulence and the aerodynamic side-effects of having a couple powerful fans pushing you in two different directions, you will just have to fly the silly thing.
That's what all those little sticks and knobs and switches are for on that black box with the pretty lights.

RADD's will help, even though you are already flying your CX2.
And the EHBG is a wonderful resource, if somewhat wordy.

http://www.dream-models.com/eco/flying-index.html
http://www.swashplate.co.uk/


Old 01-05-2007 | 10:24 PM
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I was good at flying the CX2 and thought I could just get the CP PRO and fly it like the CX. However I was wrong I cannot believe how hard it is to fly the CP. After spending a lot of money on repairs I finally decided to try RADDS school of rotary. I am glad I did as it taught me a lot about the basics of flying which I never knew before. I suggest you read it since it is very helpful.
Old 01-05-2007 | 11:34 PM
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The CP Helis are a whole new game.

Keep practicing, you 'll get it!
Old 01-05-2007 | 11:41 PM
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ive read it and i use this ...http://bladecprepair.com/index.html ive rebuilt the heli to new condition and understand how it works(sort of) but it was weird to see that i had to pull back out of forward flight instead of just letting the stick go neutral.ive done most of my learning on the top of my roll cart at work and fly inside a shop. today was my first actual lift off and i was wondering if the swashplate or servos were sticking. if you run the chopper on a table (with the skids weighed down) throttle over half way and use the right stick( in any direction and release) it snaps back to center and level with the earth. in the air i had to pull back on the stick to stop forward flight and i found myself jerking the stick everywhere to fight each over compensation lol but if this is normal ill get used to it
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ORIGINAL: --}--{

snip> today was my first actual lift off and i was wondering if the swashplate or servos were sticking. if you run the chopper on a table (with the skids weighed down) throttle over half way and use the right stick( in any direction and release) it snaps back to center and level with the earth. <snip
Of course: the blades are rigidly mounted to the helicopter! Well, sort of rigidly, the o-ring dampers let the disk flex in flight just a little bit relative to the frame of the heli. But not nearly as much as you are able to get it to flex with it restrained.
When you apply cyclic while the heli is restrained, the frame can't follow the disk, so the disk moves funny and makes you think something is wrong when it isn't. In flight the behavior is very different, and except for extreme abrupt maneuvers, the disk moves very little _with respect to the rest of the heli_. Rather, the motion of the swash makes the whole disk tilt and it takes the frame of the heli along with it.


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