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Old 01-25-2007 | 02:20 PM
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Is the anything else that can cause a charge error besides an over-run battery?
Old 01-25-2007 | 02:25 PM
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Need more info. What error, battery, and charger are you using?
Old 01-25-2007 | 02:26 PM
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If you are using the standard Eflite charger, which lights are blinking at the same / different times?
Old 01-25-2007 | 02:51 PM
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Yeah, sorry about that. I am trying to charge an E-flight 11.1v Li-Po using their charger. It charges for a few muinutes and then the red and green lights start flashing in unison. The charger just says that that display indicates a "charge error"
Old 01-25-2007 | 03:06 PM
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I'm 100% sure that simultaneous flashing means a cell is under load, or over discharged, however you wanna call it.

Aside from my personal opinion:

"Simultaneous flashing of the red and greend LEDs will indicate that the voltage of the Li-Po battery pack is too low to allow the charge process to begin. In this case the battery may have been over-discharged...blah blah, etc, or that a single or even all cells in the battery pack may be damaged."

"If after several charging attempts you continue to see this charge error indication, you should remove the battery pack from service..."

I'd say find a buddy who's got a computer charger of sorts and try to start on a REAL low charge voltage to bring the pack back to life.

If that doesn't work, you're gonna have to get a new one =/.


(Quotes from Eflite manuals)
Old 01-25-2007 | 03:14 PM
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Oh, and for the record - I no longer charge any of my LiPo's on the provided Eflite or Walkera chargers.

I've been hearing too many horror stories, and recently, I've been told by several people at the LHS that the Eflite "Balancing" Li-Po charger is not a Balancing agent at all. But that they just pump voltage into the cells until one reaches the desired 4.2v.

Although this leads me to my next question.

The Eflite balance lead has wires that hit each cell individually, correct?

My Triton charges off the discharge lead, how is it balancing? I have no idea if it is or not, maybe someone with electrical know how can tell me that part.

All I know is that I get better flight times when charged with the triton.
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Although this leads me to my next question.

The Eflite balance lead has wires that hit each cell individually, correct?

My Triton charges off the discharge lead, how is it balancing? I have no idea if it is or not, maybe someone with electrical know how can tell me that part.

All I know is that I get better flight times when charged with the triton.

It can not balance when charging thru the discharge lead. You can get a Ultra Balancer or Blinky to use while charging with your Triton. That is what I use. Works great and does not cost alot.

Ultra Balancer
http://www.commonsenserc.com/product...roducts_id=184

Blinky
http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products...?ProdID=AST106

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OKay thanks. I know I didn't over discharge this battery, so I think one of the cells is bad. I got it at the LHS, so i could try for an exchange, but my bet is that they'll just blame me. worth a try though.

Also, what charger do you use or recommend instead of the E-flight one?
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ORIGINAL: mbott1701

Also, what charger do you use or recommend instead of the E-flight one?
I use this one from E-flite "Celectra 1-3 Cell Li-Po DC Charger" $44.99

http://h1070026.hobbyshopnow.com/pro...?prod=EFLC3005
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mbott1701 ,

check your wall outlet. I get that error with a bad 3-way extension cord I use. Try another outlet. I just bought repair parts today for mine. ;^|

The e-flite charger is indeed a balancing charger. I periodically check the individual cell voltages, and after about 100 fllights on the original 800 mah e-flite and two 910 mah Thunderpower lipos, they always read within .01 to .02 volts. That's hundreths, folks!

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Lanny, how do I use the Blinky w/ the triton?

Is it a self contained unit or does the triton charge the battery through the Blinky?

Thank you, by the way, I've been wondering about my Triton and the LiPo's, although TBH - For 50$, that Celectra looks like a good option. Most of my Plane / Heli / Airsoft batteries are all LiPo anyway.
Old 01-25-2007 | 06:40 PM
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Default RE: charging error

Thanks again for the tips and suggestions. I ended up plugging the battery into the charger I have for the Dynam Hughes 300. I charged it directly into the discharge lead for a little while. Then I plugged the battery into the E-flight charger like normal. 45 minutes later it is still charging with no errors. Hopefully it will finish up okay. Maybe the battery was too low, I just don't know how that happend since I only used the thing twice so far.
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Lanny, how do I use the Blinky w/ the triton?

Is it a self contained unit or does the triton charge the battery through the Blinky?

Thank you, by the way, I've been wondering about my Triton and the LiPo's, although TBH - For 50$, that Celectra looks like a good option. Most of my Plane / Heli / Airsoft batteries are all LiPo anyway.
You just plug the blinky in to the ballance connector (4 wire). It will ballance while you charge thru the discharge connection.
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ORIGINAL: mbott1701

Also, what charger do you use or recommend instead of the E-flight one?
I use this one from E-flite "Celectra 1-3 Cell Li-Po DC Charger" $44.99

http://h1070026.hobbyshopnow.com/pro...?prod=EFLC3005
Lanny, how do you power your celectra? I just bought one, but charging off my car is going to be very inconvienient (sp?).

Radio Shack only has 12v DC converters up to 1.5a and I am assuming that the Celectra needs at least 2a to power up, yes?

Thanks man!

Bryan

EDIT: Also - what settings do you charge your packs on?
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ORIGINAL: bzinfinity

Lanny, how do you power your celectra? I just bought one, but charging off my car is going to be very inconvienient (sp?).

Radio Shack only has 12v DC converters up to 1.5a and I am assuming that the Celectra needs at least 2a to power up, yes?

Thanks man!

Bryan

EDIT: Also - what settings do you charge your packs on?
I found a 12 volt 2amp one at Frys Electronics. Was only $24. I use it for all my chargers.

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