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Old 04-24-2007 | 03:27 PM
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Does it help to move the flybar weights to make the CP PRO more stable to hover easier.I can only hold a hover about 5 or 6 seconds. Here is a pic of my flybar.My tenth wife also likes my table decor!
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Old 04-24-2007 | 04:29 PM
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darticus,

I copied this off Page 36 of the manual:

the weights help to provide added stability by increasing the amount of cyclic input required
to overcome the gyroscopic force of the flybar paddles. In general, flying with the weights in this position will
still provide quick and aggressive cyclic response, but with reduced sensitivity (especially when in hover), when
compared to having them positioned closer to the head/main shaft on the flybar.

We (e-flight) suggest that you make your first flights with the flybar weights in this position before making any adjustments.

If, after the first few flights, you feel as though the cyclic response is too quick or aggressive, we recommend the
addition of one more weights on each side of the flybar, next to the weights that were already installed. Additional
weights are available separately in packs of two (EFLH1165). With the added weights, the cyclic response will be
noticeably less responsive and aggressive.

So, where you have the weights (farthest out) is where YOU need them. You could add another weight to each side also.

Hovering is hard. Have you tried Radds flight school? http://www.dream-models.com/eco/pre-Flight.html

Thats where I started and followed it to the letter. Let us know if you have anymore questions. Go to Wheeeeeeee.....Blade Cp
Old 04-24-2007 | 05:43 PM
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There are 4 weights on. I think you said to leave all 4 where they are and add 2 more to the outer weights?Sound right? Thanks Ron
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What does cyclic response mean? Quick or aggressive cyclic response mean? ANYONE IN ENGLISH!
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you have 2 weights on and two collers to hold the flybar in place, only the smaller ones to the outside are weights....
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Like blade killer said, here is a picture. Cyclic: The pitch angle of each individual rotor blade
is changed, which creates an uneven lift distrobution. The heli leans or banks in the direction of less lift. "Aggressive cyclic response" means that it is very sensitive to the movements you make with the right stick of your transmitter.
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Old 04-24-2007 | 06:53 PM
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So what are you two brainyacks saying in English? I need two more weights to maybe help? Did you try this? Is there a difference? Thanks for your input!
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My heli leans to the right, the side with the antenna wrapped on landing gear. Does this mean anything? I fix it by trying to correct with right stick when trying to hover, which it does. Trim doesn't seem to help.
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Like blade killer said, here is a picture. Cyclic: The pitch angle of each individual rotor blade
is changed, which creates an uneven lift distrobution. The heli leans or banks in the direction of less lift. "Aggressive cyclic response" means that it is very sensitive to the movements you make with the right stick of your transmitter.
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Default RE: HOVER QUESTION FLYBAR?

If your hover is not higher than 2 feet above the ground surface, you are experiencing "Ground Effect." This is perfectly normal as the helicopter is being carried by the blades prop wash.

Another good site is http://bladecprepair.com/

They have a troubleshooting section and a boat load of easy to find info.

Take my word, I'm no brainyack. That's actually funny.

Puting another set of weights on the flybar will make the right stick controls feel less sensitive. That is the feeling when you just barley push the stick left and the heli seems to snap left, with added weights it would not feel so snappy. This is where the Radds school really helps you get the feel of how the heli responds to the controls and it becomes instinctive to you. Don't give up!


I noticed you have a CX2. Thats what I had before my CPpro. It's like starting all over, but beleive me it is worth it. Take your time!
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Right skid low is normal. Without trying to sound too "brainy" it's called translating tendancy. Even big heli's have this, read this for more info
http://www.helicopterpage.com/html/forces.html


And yes, the weights will help. It just will make the blades take longer to react to your inputs. You can also move your servo links in one hole to tame it down a bit.
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Is Radds school really good? Did you do it? Did you need 3 batteries? Does it help? Would you take a bullet for him? Is he for real?
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A little late, but I think this will help you out some.
http://www.w3mh.co.uk/articles/html/csm9-11.htm
Part 10 has some good info on the flybar, I would recommend you read through all of Colin Mills Practical Theories articles, you might learn something.

As for Radd's school, I tried it for a while, but with tons of time on realflight G3, I didn't need it.
Its great if you have the patients and no experience with orientation, but if you've got a lot of time on a sim, you should fly through it.

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