cpp2 and b400
07-01-2009 | 06:11 PM
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cpp2 and b400
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How close are the blade 400 and the CP Pro 2 in performance?
IE: in no wind are the cpp2 and the b400 close to each other in handling/performance? I am learning my B400 but have to go away from my house to fly it. Not enough room at home to fly the 400, especially while I am learning it.
And I would like something smaller that somewhat duplicates the 400 that I can fly here. The reason I am comparing them is the cpp2 has the heading lock gyro and the cp+ does not.
I guess what I am asking is the cpp2 a good trainer for the b400? I have the cx2 but the b400 and the cx2 are nothing alike.
Thanks,
Ron
How close are the blade 400 and the CP Pro 2 in performance?
IE: in no wind are the cpp2 and the b400 close to each other in handling/performance? I am learning my B400 but have to go away from my house to fly it. Not enough room at home to fly the 400, especially while I am learning it.
And I would like something smaller that somewhat duplicates the 400 that I can fly here. The reason I am comparing them is the cpp2 has the heading lock gyro and the cp+ does not.
I guess what I am asking is the cpp2 a good trainer for the b400? I have the cx2 but the b400 and the cx2 are nothing alike.
Thanks,
Ron
07-01-2009 | 06:32 PM
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RE: cpp2 and b400
I have a CX2 and CP Pro 2. Going to a 450 class as bigger is better - more stable (Ordered an HK450 and parts from HobbyCity). I just had another mishap today with my CP Pro 2. I was in a park and went too far (for my eye sight). I couldn't tell what was front and back and since I was too low, I couldn't recover. Cut the throttle, but it did hit the ground a little hard - bent the main shaft (my second replacement...). I do fly it at home, but just hover and back and forth. Regardless of CP Pro 2 or 400, I bet you would still have to go to the park.
Oh, and since you are learning on the 400, don't expect the CP Pro 2 to be easier to fly. On the contrary, the CP Pro 2 is much more delicate and not as stable.
I would suggest getting a simulator for the same money, and keep your 400.
Gilles
Oh, and since you are learning on the 400, don't expect the CP Pro 2 to be easier to fly. On the contrary, the CP Pro 2 is much more delicate and not as stable.
I would suggest getting a simulator for the same money, and keep your 400.
Gilles
07-01-2009 | 06:50 PM
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RE: cpp2 and b400
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Oh, and since you are learning on the 400, don't expect the CP Pro 2 to be easier to fly. On the contrary, the CP Pro 2 is much more delicate and not as stable.
I would suggest getting a simulator for the same money, and keep your 400.
Gilles
Oh, and since you are learning on the 400, don't expect the CP Pro 2 to be easier to fly. On the contrary, the CP Pro 2 is much more delicate and not as stable.
I would suggest getting a simulator for the same money, and keep your 400.
Gilles
That may be the best advice about the sim. I have every intention of keeping the B400. Have not crashed yet but also have not really flown it. Trying the RADD method and just now getting to low (just off the ground) hover. Been real windy here lately and trying it in a 24x24 garage can be somewhat intimidating, especially if something goes very wrong.
I have been searching the forums and it seems that the CP Pro2 is real twitchy. Seeing as I am a newby to this, I am still learning. Thanks to input from people like you from the forums, it is going faster than I thought it would.
Sims: FSone or g4.5? Hmmmmm, off to more forum searching.
Ron
07-01-2009 | 07:43 PM
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RE: cpp2 and b400
Ron,
I have two of each CPP2, and B400's....and everything that Gilles told you is true, the CPP2 will be a step down in stability, ease of flight, visibility, and is really not all that less expensive to repair in most crashes...
I strongly also agree on the sim...I have both Realflight G4, and Phoenix, and they were/are the best money I've spent in the hobby, hands down. They are not perfect, but they get you moving the sticks in the right directions, which is half the battle...
I have used mine to practice new stuff that I want to try, and then when I do to it in real life, it's very close to what the sim has taught me...
The one upside to the CPP2, is that once you DO learn to fly it, everything else is a piece of cake! Going from flying my CCP2's to the B400's is great, really makes me appreciate the larger 450 class helis...
If you are going to check out sims, don't overlook Phoenix, for helis, it is considered to be the best by many people, including myself. More realistic physics, better graphics, cheaper, and all the upgrades, new models, flying sites etc are always free...
Not to put down G4/G4.5....I just like Phoenix alot better for my own heli training, Realflight is also an excellent sim, you can't go wrong with either one.
A couple of things to consider when comparing the two...
With Phoenix you must supply your own radio, (the DX6i is fine with it), with G4, you can use your own radio, but have to make each model you want to fly with your radio a special "pass through" model. I personally like using the same radio for sim practice as I do in real life flying, to me, that is a big advantage.
Phoenix is less demanding on computer resources/hardware. G4 is kind of a resource hog, and likes lots of PC horsepower. Phoenix is a bit "lighter" with little or no compromise in performance or graphics...
Just my 2 cents!
If you want more info on Phoenix, check here;
http://www.phoenix-sim.com/welcome.htm
Oh, and don't bother shopping around for Phoenix, it's only available from the manufacturer, which is in England. The shipping is very fast, and affordable, mine arrived in two days!
Another tip, if the demo of Phoenix runs OK on your PC, the real sim will as well...so you can verify that before you order...
Good luck, and have fun!
Glenn
I have two of each CPP2, and B400's....and everything that Gilles told you is true, the CPP2 will be a step down in stability, ease of flight, visibility, and is really not all that less expensive to repair in most crashes...
I strongly also agree on the sim...I have both Realflight G4, and Phoenix, and they were/are the best money I've spent in the hobby, hands down. They are not perfect, but they get you moving the sticks in the right directions, which is half the battle...
I have used mine to practice new stuff that I want to try, and then when I do to it in real life, it's very close to what the sim has taught me...
The one upside to the CPP2, is that once you DO learn to fly it, everything else is a piece of cake! Going from flying my CCP2's to the B400's is great, really makes me appreciate the larger 450 class helis...
If you are going to check out sims, don't overlook Phoenix, for helis, it is considered to be the best by many people, including myself. More realistic physics, better graphics, cheaper, and all the upgrades, new models, flying sites etc are always free...
Not to put down G4/G4.5....I just like Phoenix alot better for my own heli training, Realflight is also an excellent sim, you can't go wrong with either one.
A couple of things to consider when comparing the two...
With Phoenix you must supply your own radio, (the DX6i is fine with it), with G4, you can use your own radio, but have to make each model you want to fly with your radio a special "pass through" model. I personally like using the same radio for sim practice as I do in real life flying, to me, that is a big advantage.
Phoenix is less demanding on computer resources/hardware. G4 is kind of a resource hog, and likes lots of PC horsepower. Phoenix is a bit "lighter" with little or no compromise in performance or graphics...
Just my 2 cents!
If you want more info on Phoenix, check here;
http://www.phoenix-sim.com/welcome.htm
Oh, and don't bother shopping around for Phoenix, it's only available from the manufacturer, which is in England. The shipping is very fast, and affordable, mine arrived in two days!
Another tip, if the demo of Phoenix runs OK on your PC, the real sim will as well...so you can verify that before you order...
Good luck, and have fun!
Glenn
