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pitch 10-27-2006 10:40 PM

heavy tail problems
 
hi guys need your help. just finished putting on the "superskids" and did a dual tail motor mod. got it all put back together and the tail is waaay too heavy. it drops alot. in order to balance it i would have to put the equivalent of a battery pack on top off the 3 in 1. is this wrong or should i have to add this much weight? if anyone has any suggestions i would be glad to hear it. hate to think i would have to get rid of the dual tail after just getting it on. thanks

jent 10-27-2006 11:09 PM

RE: heavy tail problems
 
maybe you should try cutting the tail boom a little shorter.....obviously have the battery as far forward as possible.

pitch 10-27-2006 11:42 PM

RE: heavy tail problems
 
i can move the battery but only a little bit. also thought about the tail boom, not sure of any effects of a shorter tail boom. any thoughts. i have seen guys with pics of super skid and dual tail motors but no one has said anything about a heavy tail problem

bayfire300 10-29-2006 12:22 PM

RE: heavy tail problems
 
i glued washers inside the nose of the canopy to help balance it out on my blade cp

otto

Heli_Harry 10-29-2006 01:05 PM

RE: heavy tail problems
 
You best bet us to move your battery as this adds no additional weight.

You can move quite far forward under the canopy.

rawvoodoo 10-29-2006 03:03 PM

RE: heavy tail problems
 
I had to put a washer in the nose also. Until I got a brushless motor. So when I got that I had to upgrade to a 1350 mah batt. that realy helped balance it all out.

zenchal26 10-30-2006 10:35 AM

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move your bat tray fwd do not cut boom you have a better chance of a boom strike moving the tail rotor closer to the main blades. This is how I moved my tray fwd.

HeliTB 10-30-2006 10:37 AM

RE: heavy tail problems
 
Also, try moving the battery holder outiside in front of the superskids. That's what I had to do. Balances very well now.

pitch 10-30-2006 06:07 PM

RE: heavy tail problems
 
that is just what i had to do and it is much better now

Heli_Harry 10-30-2006 09:50 PM

RE: heavy tail problems
 
zenchal26

I did the same as you but I also flipped the battery holder piece over (hump up).


drphoto 10-31-2006 10:33 AM

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I did the same thing as the last 3 posters. I just want to clarify that you are reusing the stock BCP battery tray platform. I've got velcro on mine. Toss the two crossmembers that force you to use rubber bands. (that is if you are using the skids from HD....I don't know what sort of battery hanger comes w/ the 'superskid' brand)

Here's a pic to clarify.

In case anyone is wondering....the grey can on the motor lead is a ferrite ring, said to reduce RF noise and hence, glitching. Might be voodoo, but it was cheap. However I've not had any problems after adding along w/ the antenna routing. Yeah, I did two things at once.....not a very scientific method. I suspect unwiding the antenna was the real reason.

choppersrule 10-31-2006 06:53 PM

RE: heavy tail problems
 


ORIGINAL: drphoto

I did the same thing as the last 3 posters. I just want to clarify that you are reusing the stock BCP battery tray platform. I've got velcro on mine. Toss the two crossmembers that force you to use rubber bands. (that is if you are using the skids from HD....I don't know what sort of battery hanger comes w/ the 'superskid' brand)

Here's a pic to clarify.

In case anyone is wondering....the grey can on the motor lead is a ferrite ring, said to reduce RF noise and hence, glitching. Might be voodoo, but it was cheap. However I've not had any problems after adding along w/ the antenna routing. Yeah, I did two things at once.....not a very scientific method. I suspect unwiding the antenna was the real reason.
Drphoto,

I have the Super Skids V3, from the super-skid.com brand. It has the same battery crossmembers that makes you use the rubber bands. I installed them, after about three flights, I dumped them and went back to velcro like you.

I worked at the phone company for 29 years and the ferrite rings do work, the telephone industry buys them by the truck loads.
Good Idea! Who would have 'thunk'.....It sometimes amazes me, that the inexpensive mods, seem to work very well.

Dave / Choppersrule

zenchal26 11-01-2006 01:03 PM

RE: heavy tail problems
 
Why not run the tail wires through the ring too. Is that a $20 heli direct batt you got their? HOw is it working for you I bought 4 worked for awile and then they were junk.

drphoto 11-01-2006 01:29 PM

RE: heavy tail problems
 
Yup, that's a 20 buck special. Has worked fine, but I have noticed flight times have started to get shorter recently, so maybe it's starting to crap out. Of course, the motor might be wearing out too. I don't have any battery test equipment. I don't regret buying it though. Got me through the tail in hovering learning curve.



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