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Fliprob17 08-30-2006 11:24 PM

E-Flite Mini Pulse XT Owner's Club
 
Well, I have been researching for a while now, and finally decided on a new plane. I was looking at the Mini Edge and the Mini Ultra Sitck, but then E-Flite came out with the Mini Pulse XT seemed perfect. A little bit of both I think. I know it is fairly new, but does anyone have one yet? I will be ordering mine shortly, and was hoping to get the thread up and going and start the info. swap/learning tree for all.

Here is the setup I am going with:

Receiver - HiTec Electron 6
Servos - (4) HiTec HS55's
Motor - E-Flite Park 480 BL Outrunner 1020kv
ESC - E-Flite 40 amp V2
Battery - Thunder Power 2100mah 3 cell LiPo
Prop - 11x7 & 12x6 APC Elec. and APC slow flyers - we will see what works better

Doc Austin 08-31-2006 08:08 AM

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I've got mine on order at the LHS. Looks like it ought to be a nice little plane. Our setup is the same. The thing ought to be a real streak with a 480.

I downloaded the construction manual and I really like the way they did things on this plane. It looks like it will go rogether really, really fast and it will probably hold up pretty well too. I'm also considering a Pulse 46 electric that the LHS has hanging from the ceiling, but man, the batteries are sure expensive for that thing.

Wide Open 08-31-2006 08:12 AM

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i dont think its available to the general public yet is it? id really like to get one but i think i have too many airplanes as it is.[:@]

Doc Austin 08-31-2006 08:31 AM

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Sorry, guys. Mid October.

I may build a Fliton Protigy while I'm waiting. I've wanted one of those since day one.

And speaking of which, when you look at the Pulse, it's easy to see why I haven't built that Protigy yet. Everything on the Pulse is real wood except for the fiberglass cowl and , of course, the canopy. The Protigy uses whimpy plastic for the hatch cover and cowl. It's probably ok, but I just don't like it.

I like real wood for a lot of reasons, mostly because I think it will hold up better than the plastic. Alot of this is left over paranoia from the slimer days when all that vibration would fatique plastic cowlings and such, and eventually make them fall apart. And alot of it is because real wood covered like the rest of the plane looks better. Plastic just looks cheap.

I much prefer E Flite's way of building real airplanes out of real wood. I'm going to build a protigy because the videos I've seen show the plane really grooves and tracks well, but I don't think it's going to look as good or hold up as well as a Pulse.

I don't think we're under any illusions that the Pulse is going to out fly the Protigy, but it sure looks teriffic.

http://www.horizonhobby.com/ProdInfo...y/IMG_7595.jpg

Fliprob17 08-31-2006 09:51 AM

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Ya, I found an online source that says late September, we will see. It will probably be October though. It should really rip with the 480 in it, turning a 11x7 or 12x6. I was really hooked on the Edge 540, but never really wanted a full 3D plane. Then was hooked on the Mini Ultra Stick, but still wanted the "plane" appearance that the MUS kinda lacks. Then this little beauty came along. A nice fat wingspan like the MUS, with a slendered down :) Mini Edge twist. I have been spending a lot of time looking for my next plane and knew this was it as soon as I saw it. I too am hooked on E-Flite's construction, and having the MPXT being all wood everywhere except canopy, and the fiberglass cowl that is a great upgrade from some of the plastic ones I have seen, this appears to be one of their best plane constructions yet. Really excited to get it, already ordered the servos, receiver and about 6 different prop options :D.

Fliprob17 08-31-2006 12:56 PM

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Well, the online store I am using pushed it back to mid October now, [:@] oh well, gives me time to get the $$ together for the rest of the electronics, etc...

I did go ahead and order the plane though :D backordered and scheduled to be delivered the second week in October. Wanted to make sure I got on the list ya know. Also ordered the servo extension wires and the y-harness for the ailerons, if I go that route instead of mixing two channels.

John Redman 09-01-2006 10:41 PM

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If you liked the Mini Ultra Stick, you are going to love the Mini Pulse XT.

If you loved the Mini Ultra Stick then you are going to go totally nuts over the Mini Pulse XT.

Steerable tailwheel, rather fast performance on a Park 450, you don't need a 480 on this one guys, it will just get heavy.

Out of the box it builds so fats you will need a charged Li-Po and transmitter battery when you open the box, because within 2 hours you will be ready to hit the air.

This one is a keeper!!!!

Fliprob17 09-02-2006 12:57 PM

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That is good news :D Are there any videos available yet of it flying? And can you push one out the door quicker for me :D I have it on back order with you guys :D

You really think the 480 motor is too much or not needed?

marciron 09-06-2006 08:58 AM

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The plane has a beautiful scale look, are the servos from my Mini Ultra Stick directly transplantable along with the E-flight 450?? Also does anyone know if those wheel pants create a problem with taking off from a grass field. One other thing, is the aerobatic performance and speed comparable to the Mini Ultra Stick??
Thanks

Ron

Fliprob17 09-06-2006 11:07 AM

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The servos should be a direct transplant, as long as they are a sub-micro, which I think is what you needed for the MUS anyway, probably HS55's. They are recommending the 450 so that should tranfer over fine, but I am having a hard time convincing myself not to get the 480 :D From what I have read, the aerobatic performance and speed are very comparable to the MUS, I will better answer that once they start shipping planes ;). As far as the wheels are concerned, I am looking at some larger replacement for all three, most of the time I fly in parks and grass is all you have to land on, so the wheel pants will probably have to go.

GoBucks 09-12-2006 01:14 PM

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Would this be a good first plane? I'm not a true RC beginner. I currently fly helis (both glow and electric) and I can do FFF and aerobatics on the heli. I can fly the planes on the XTR sim except for the trainers. It seems coming from a heli background they respond too slow for what I'm used to. I'm looking at this plane because it seems to have a wide range of capabilities.

Fliprob17 09-12-2006 02:51 PM

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I am not sure about this being a "beginner" or "first" plane, it is definitely harder to handle and much more aerobatic and faster than any beginner plane. I started out with a 4 channel foamy Cessna 182, that I currently fly, to me that is a beginner plane. It might be an expensive price to pay starting out with a wood plane that has this much ability and requires you to be able to correct/fix to save it on the fly. I would highly recommend going with a top wing design before jumping to something like this. The FMS is a good trainer for getting use to the "sticks", but that is about it, it is not good for getting use to specific planes or specific plane designs. The Cessna 182 I have has a model for the FMS that flies so slow and controls so slow it is not even funny. Nothing like the actual plane when it is in the air.

Doc Austin 09-16-2006 06:23 PM

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OK. We've waited long enough. When do we get the things?

Fliprob17 09-16-2006 10:56 PM

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Ya, no kidding huh [:-] I got the receiver and servos the other day, got them all dialed in and set up a new model in the TX, started setting the D/R's, etc. that I could without the plane, so hopefully it will be, put the plane together while the battery is charging, do some checks of the equip., then out the door :D Got a box full of props ready to try out, 8 total I think, ranging from 10x8sport to 12x6 slofly, with a buch of E props inbetween. Still need to order the Motor, ESC and battery, will probably do that next week.

Fliprob17 09-18-2006 07:35 PM

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Ordered the motor, ESC and the E-Flite Power meter today. All that is left now is the battery, charger and power supply. Getting closer.....by the week instead of by the minute [:@][:'(][:-]

Fliprob17 09-20-2006 07:10 PM

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Getting closer......I guess :)

Got the motor, esc and power meter today....I have to say that Horizon Hobby rocks, they are always one to two days in getting stuff to me, great turn around on parts. I went with the Park 480 1020kv, even though it is a little heavier but I will be able to jump up a little in prop size which will be nice, plus....MORE POWER [:-]. This is my first brushless setup, and I was amazed at this little motor, about 1/3 the size of the SPEED 480 brushed motors I am using in my Cessna 182, but with a ton more power. NOW I JUST NEED THE PLANE [:@]

Fliprob17 09-30-2006 11:32 PM

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SOMEDAY SOON THEY WILL START SHIPPING PLANES [:'(]

All I have left to get is the battery, got the charger and blinky balancer last week. Anxious to get this thing together.

epoxy123 10-02-2006 11:56 AM

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After flying nitro many years this will likely be my first electric.
Besides having a field charger (Li Po recharge capable) and a Futaba 6 ch radio...any recommendations on what I need to get going?
Many thanks.

Fliprob17 10-02-2006 02:48 PM

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Take a look at the very first post in the thread.....that should do it, that is all the equip, I got. I have the Futaba 6 channel as well, but the Hitec receiver and servos seem to be a better match for this plane. Plus a charger and LiPo balancer, since this is my first go with LiPo's. I also got larger foam wheels since most of my flying is done at parks with not quite the shortest grass.

-Inverted- 10-08-2006 09:45 PM

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Im getting one of these bad boys as well. Im super excited.

Fliprob17 10-09-2006 11:42 PM

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It should be a great plane......any day now they should start shipping. Maybe get one by the end of next week.....we will see.

Planebeach 10-10-2006 06:10 PM

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Hi, I have a AXI 2808 would this be a good power plant for this model. Its seeking a new partner:D

Fliprob17 10-10-2006 06:38 PM

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Ya, I think that would work out fine, maybe even more power than you need on this plane.

proptop 10-10-2006 11:28 PM

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Got two of them in today at our LHS...

I'm thinking the set-up outa my Mini Funtana should work well.

AXi 2808/24 w/ APC 10 X 5E, TP 2100 3 cell, and E-Flite 20A. ESC.
I get about 250-275W.

Fliprob17 10-11-2006 12:21 AM

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I got a notification that mine shipped today. So looks like this weekend will be getting it all setup.

proptop 10-11-2006 10:34 AM

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Our LHS doesn't open until noon...and I didn't have the $ w/ me yesterday...

Looks like I gotta go back today!:D

Fliprob17 10-11-2006 12:00 PM

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Let us know if you get it. I was reading through the instruction manual that I downloaded, ya know, trying to get geared up for the arrival of the plane and all ;), and it looks fairly straight forward and well thought out. The only things I see that may need mods. or a little extra time are the following:

Wheels - for grass landings the wheel pants may create an issue depending on the clearance. I have already purchased and painted up some 2-1/4" wheels, which are 1/4" larger in dia. than the originals. So taking off the wheel pants, and the larger wheels should really help with the thicker grass landings and dirt. They are foam so really no weight difference between the 2" and 2-1/4".

Motor - they are recommending the Park 450, I am like a lot of us I am sure, and went BIGGER, BETTER MORE POWER :D so I got the Park 480 1020kv Outrunner. Looks like it will mount exactly the same with no issues. It just weighs a little more, so things may need to be repositioned slightly (ESC, receiver, etc..) to keep the center of gravity true.

Cowl - This is really the only area in the manual that looks like it needs a little more attention when building. As long as you put everything on the motor (prop, spinner, adapter, etc.) you should avoid any problems here. Taking your time and having all of the gear installed while you are aligning the cowl to the fuse to drill the holes, seems to be the most important area to focus your attention on. But with a little patience it should be fine. Just make sure you leave that 1/8" gap so the spinner does not rub ;)

Prop - They recommend a 10x8, but that is for the Park 450. With the Park 480 I am going with an 11x7E. I have a couple of 12x6E's as well.

TailWheel - It is a 3/4" dia. wheel which may or may not work for those grass landings. I am looking at getting something around a 1" dia. to allow free rolling and easier landings in the thicker grass and dirt.

Main Wing and Tail Wing - Looks straight forward here, I like the ease of the bolt on wings, easy to transport to and from the field.

Servo Installations - Make sure you get the required extensions, (2) 12" and (1) 6" and (1) 6" Y harness - would be a bummer to have to run out to the LHS while all excited and building :) Otherwise, again looks fairly straight forward here. Just watch the aileron servo and don't drill through the top of the wing when drilling the mounting holes. Ya know how guys get with power tools :D

Canopy - As long as you sand down the fuse and the canopy so the glue adheres better, everything here looks straight forward as well.

Without having the actual plane yet, the manual looks pretty good. The step by step seems well thought out.

Does anyone have anything else to look for or lookout for? Has anyone started the build yet?

proptop 10-11-2006 08:07 PM

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From the sound of things, I don't think you are going to have any problems. I like to spend the 1st evening with a new plane just reading thru the manual, and getting all the hardware sorted, etc. I put the different pieces for each assembly in different yogurt cups, or butter tubs.

I will probably leave the wheel pants off, as I too fly off grass.

I'd say don't worry about the tailwheel...my mini Funtana doesn't even have one, and ground handling is not difficult.

I will be using an AXi 2808/24 which (I think ) is a lot like the 480...and I will have to do a little re-arranging to make things work ahead of the firewall...no biggie.

Doc Austin 10-12-2006 12:07 AM

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I flew my Mini Pulse today and it's a teriffic little plane. I started a build theread here but it sank off the page, so I finsined it up here where there's a little more traffic:

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...0&page=2&pp=15

But, here the crux of it:

just got back and the Mini Pulse is an extremely nice airplane. Amazingly, it took no trim...........I mean zero trim. I follwed E flite's set up exactly, and it was absolutely dead on. High rate ailerons gave me three rolls in five seconds, which is perfect. The elevator was just right. One place I did deviate from the recommended set up was that I crammed as much rudder in it as I could, and that was just right too.

I flew out the 1320 pack, which with the 450 was about 20 minutes. I changed the battery, scratched my head thinking about what I wanted to change on the set up and couldn't think of anything.

It's really quite amazing. I took it out of the box, did what the directions said to do and the thing came out perfect. All I had to do was work the two sticks. I never touched a trim or flipped the dual rates.

Amazing.

The plane loops, rolls, snap rolls and spins just fine, but it's extremely stable. The dihedral keeps the thing level and tracking well, so it's hard to get into trouble with it. I tried a few slow rolls, and they were ok, but with all that dihedral you're going to have a compromise or two. Knife edge and slow rolls are do-able but a little sloppy. Axial rolls weren't perfect either, but the plane's sublime stability makes up for that.

The 450 is a nice little motor that runs forever on a small battery, and in this plane it provides just enough punch, but the operative word here is just. She will go vertical for a bit, but not out of sight. I'de say for the guy who is coming from a basic trainer, the power is just right. It's enough to have a little fun with but not enough to be scarey.

Landings were no problem and she slowed right don't. She doesn't have a single bad habit.

But, it's not the plane for me, which isn't necessarilly a bad thing. I think for the guy who wants a really good looking second-ever plane that he won't get into trouble with, this plane is absolutely perfect, but if you want to get wild the Mini Ultra Stick is much better. Too bad the Mini Ultra isn't this pretty.

I'm going to trade the plane to a freind of mine who I soloed last Saturday because it will be just right for him and he'll love the thing. In fact, when he saw it last night he tried to buy it from me before I could get it out of the box. I think he's going to be really pleased that all he has to do is just go fly it. I had fun building it, because it goes together so nicely, and I always enjoy sharing my experiences.......and I'm going to get my money out of it too, so I'm a happy guy as well.

But still, I'de have to give the plane five smileys because it does what it's intended to do even better than could be expected from it. Aside from the prop apdapter/spinner snafu, I've got no reservation in saying that anyone who has put together a trainer arf and soloed could whack this thing out in an evening with no help and then go have a blast flying it.

Very nice airplane and another E flite project that is very well done.

Doc's rating ;););););)


-Inverted- 10-12-2006 12:12 AM

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I flew out the 1320 pack, which with the 450 was about 20 minutes. I changed the battery, scratched my head thinking about what I wanted to change on the set up and couldn't think of anything.
Hmm, so with a 2100 pack the flight time should be fantastic.

Fliprob17 10-12-2006 12:22 AM

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That is good news that it all went together without a hitch. I can't believe you don't want to hold on to it though :D

I am thinking with the 480 motor and an 11x7 prop, with the 2100mah battery, this plane should kick *****. I am working on some comparison calcs. between the recommended 450 motor and the powerhouse 480 motor :D that I will post tomorrow. Big difference in power and aerobatic possibilities just based on numbers. With a 20 minute flight time on that battery with the 450 motor, we should get at least 15-20 minutes on the 2100 with the 480 motor I would think.

I got mine delivered UPS today, packaging held up ok, no damage [8D]

Here are some pics of the packaging.

Fliprob17 10-12-2006 12:26 AM

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And here are some pics of the plane unpackaged. Really a great looking plane, the "pre-pictures" did not do it justice. The underside of the main wing was a surprise as well, looks sharp.

proptop 10-12-2006 04:03 AM

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Ain't that something...the control horns are already installed too...:D I like that.

These things are getting more and more "pre-fab" all the time...(love it![8D])

I'll be flyin' mine Friday...


Doc...it sounds like it flys a lot like the bigger one...that's good too
Every time I fly it, people remark about how smooth and "groovy" it seems to be...and I say "yep...it is":D

Gonna be cool to see 'em parked next to each other.

Doc Austin 10-12-2006 07:56 AM

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ORIGINAL: -Inverted-

Hmm, so with a 2100 pack the flight time should be fantastic.

I would guess 30 minutes would be possible.

Also, I had to jam the battery as far forward as I could get it to get the balance right. I test fitted a 2100 pack with it sitting in the middle of the battery compartment the plane balanced fine. I'm sure the plane was designed to use the 2100 pack, but I was going for lightness and went with the 1320.

Either battery works, so I guess it's just a matter of how long you like to fly. If you fly in a big club it's probably not good to tie up the frequency for 30 minutes, so you may as well put the small pack in and keep the plane light. If you have your own private field, I'de put the 2100 in it.




ORIGINAL: fliprob17

That is good news that it all went together without a hitch. I can't believe you don't want to hold on to it though :D
Remember that I gave the plane a ;););););) rating. Five smiles is the max possible.


It's a beautiful little airplane and there's not a single thing in the world wrong with it except it isn't bad. It will do all the aerobatics and I suppose if you put a 480 in it the plane would be a rocket, but it's just a little bit too stable for me.


With a 20 minute flight time on that battery with the 450 motor, we should get at least 15-20 minutes on the 2100 with the 480 motor I would think.
I get 15 minutes out of my Mini Ultras with the 480/2100 combo, and the Pulse is sleeker with less drag. I've got no trouble believing the Pulse could match those times if not do a little better.







Fliprob17 10-12-2006 09:31 AM

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That is true :D You did give it 5 smileys :D

I prefer the stability at this point in my flying career :) Not quite the AeroAce yet. Anxious to get the plane put together. I will probably start on it today.

Also, I think larger wheels may fit in the wheel pants, they look huge. I will try my 2-1/4" and take some pics if they work.

In my spare time waiting for this little beauty I of course had to spruce some things up a little bit [8D]

Fliprob17 10-12-2006 04:29 PM

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Ok here is what I conjured up on the motor comparison, using 27oz flying weight which equates to 1.69lbs, and the factory amp ratings at a continuous and burst rating:

Park 450 890 kv
Max. Voltage Supplied (4.2v per cell) = 12.6v x 14amp Continuous = 176watts / 1.69lbs = 104watts per pound
Max. Voltage Supplied (4.2v per cell) = 12.6v x 18amp Burst = 227watts / 1.69lbs = 134watts per pound

Mid. Voltage Supplied = 11.25v x 14amp Continuous = 158watts / 1.69lbs = 93watts per pound
Mid. Voltage Supplied = 11.25v x 18amp Burst = 202watts / 1.69lbs = 120watts per pound

Min. Voltage Supplied (3.3v per cell) = 9.9v x 14amp Continuous = 139watts / 1.69lbs = 82watts per pound
Min. Voltage Supplied (3.3v per cell) = 9.9v x 18amp Burst = 178watts / 1.69lbs = 105watts per pound

Park 480 1020 kv
Max. Voltage Supplied (4.2v per cell) = 12.6v x 22amp Continuous = 277watts / 1.69lbs = 164watts per pound
Max. Voltage Supplied (4.2v per cell) = 12.6v x 28amp Burst = 352watts / 1.69lbs = 208watts per pound

Mid. Voltage Supplied = 11.25v x 22amp Continuous = 248watts / 1.69lbs = 147watts per pound
Mid. Voltage Supplied = 11.25v x 28amp Burst = 315watts / 1.69lbs = 186watts per pound

Min. Voltage Supplied (3.3v per cell) = 9.9v x 22amp Continuous = 218watts / 1.69lbs = 129watts per pound
Min. Voltage Supplied (3.3v per cell) = 9.9v x 28amp Burst = 277watts / 1.69lbs = 164watts per pound

As E-Flite specs. you need 150-200watts per pound for unlimited 3D and performance. At any time the Park 480 will deliver it. Most of the time without even hitting full throttle. The Park 450 hovers around the light 3D to sport range, but towards the mid and end of a flight it seems to mathematically lack performance. Any way, just a bunch of math mumbo jumbo :D

Doc Austin 10-13-2006 05:54 AM

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Oooops. Sorry I missed your post, but I'de like to add a few things.


ORIGINAL: fliprob17

Wheels - for grass landings the wheel pants may create an issue depending on the clearance. I have already purchased and painted up some 2-1/4" wheels, which are 1/4" larger in dia. than the originals. So taking off the wheel pants, and the larger wheels should really help with the thicker grass landings and dirt.
I used Dave Brown 2 " wheels and they fit inside the wheel pants, but only just, and I had to relieve some of the lip around the opening.



ORIGINAL: fliprob17

Motor - they are recommending the Park 450, I am like a lot of us I am sure, and went BIGGER, BETTER MORE POWER :D so I got the Park 480 1020kv Outrunner. Looks like it will mount exactly the same with no issues.
Maybe, maybe not. If you check from earlier in this thread, you'll see where I note the top two bolts that hold the mount onto the firewall may not clear the motor. At this point, the motor is bigger around than the mount. Yes, the 480 will bolt directly to the 450 X mount, but then you will have trouble getting the bolts that hold the mount on past the motor.

I had planned on using a 480, and my solution was to put those bolts through the mount before mounting the motor, and then tightening them with a ball driver. I don't think you'de be able to get to them with a straight Allen.

Another plan was to put the mount on first, and then to screw the motor onto the mount from behind, but that would have really been less than easy.

No doubt the Pulse would be a rocket with a 480, but it might spoile her docile nature.


ORIGINAL: fliprob17

It just weighs a little more, so things may need to be repositioned slightly (ESC, receiver, etc..) to keep the center of gravity true.
I'm pretty sure you've got room to slide the battery back enough to balance the plane. On a mini Ultra, which was designed for the 450 and 1320 pack, I slide the battery pack all the way back, and with the 480/2100 pack it balances absolutely spot on. However, I like my planes a tad tail heavy, so I screw a 1/8 ounce piece of lead to the tail skid and that puts it where I want it. I suspect the Pulse would be about the same.


ORIGINAL: fliprob17

Cowl - This is really the only area in the manual that looks like it needs a little more attention when building. As long as you put everything on the motor (prop, spinner, adapter, etc.) you should avoid any problems here.
Make sure you get the spinner tightened down and that it fits right before you drill the cowling. I had nothing but trouble with my spinner and I gave up on it. With the APC prop, the spinner had to be spaced forward, and on mine that warped the spinner enough that the cone wouldn't snap down properly. Or better still, do it right to begin with and go get a Dubro or something.

Here's what I wrote about the spinner/prop adapter on another forum:


Doc's long, boring rant....

There's really no nice way to say it. The spinner doesn't work on this plane. To be fair, the spinner is designed to work with E Flite's lineup of props, and not the APC prop I'm using. It's made to fit a smaller diameter gearbox output shaft, and it works fine for that because I've used them on my Edge 540s before with no problem. But, to fit the 450 with it's larger prop adapter, you have to drill it out. It's impossible to get it true without a drill press, which fortunately we have. However, when I tighten the prop down, the spinner backplate warps, and the spinner nose cone won't go on properly. Yes, we used the spacers and the spinner is put on properly. It just does work. Wait until that flies off and pokes you in the eye.

And, with the the spinner on, you've only got about two or three threads left on the adapter, so there won't be much holding that prop nut on.

I took the spinner off my Brio, but now the 450s standard prop adapter wouldn't seat down on the crankshaft, and when I tried to tighten the prop nut the motor would just spin. On a Mini Ultra you just grab the motor, but the cooling holes on the Pulse's cowling are so small you can't even get your pinkie in there. Running out of time, I used an aftermarket E Flite bolt on prop adapter (which fortunately fits the 480 as well, and I had a spare). Maddeningly, though, is that this adapter sits further forward and now there's a huge gap between the cowling and spinner. The cowling is already mounted about as far forward as I can get it, so this isn't going to work either.

Finally, I just said the heck with it and I'm going to fly it without a spinner for now. It doesn't look too bad and at least this will allow a bit more air into the cowling.

I've had a few problems with the standard Colet-type prop adapters that come with E Flite motors. They are a constant source of annoyance, and I've replaced them on every one of my 480 motors. Once I had one fly off while running a motor up in the pits, so I don't know what I was thinking by trying to use one again.

OK, maybe I've just got some sort of dyslexia with these spinners and adapters, but this is a plane aimed at the average guy, and if I can't make the spinner work after flying model airplanes for 50 years, I think they might want to refine this system a little.

Wow, now that I've burned E Flite really good, let me say I'm also probably their biggest fan. I absolutely love their Ultra Stick lineup and their power systems are the most trouble free things I've owned in all my years in the sport. Once in awhile they get something wrong though, but I'm more than willing to forgive them because they otherwise make such wonderful stuff and they stand behind it.

End long boring rant....

ORIGINAL: fliprob17

Taking your time and having all of the gear installed while you are aligning the cowl to the fuse to drill the holes, seems to be the most important area to focus your attention on.
Again, make sure the spinner is on properly with the cap on before you drill the cowling. I had mine all lined up and pretty, and finished, but then I found out the cap would go on because the backplate had warped so badly.



ORIGINAL: fliprob17

Prop - They recommend a 10x8, but that is for the Park 450. With the Park 480 I am going with an 11x7E. I have a couple of 12x6E's as well.
12/6 and 11/7 is what I use on my 480s, but be careful of the heat. The Minis do fine because the motor is out there in the breeze, but with the 450 cowled up and blowing hot air over the battery, you might get the batteries a little hot. Since things are cooling off now it might not be a problem, but toward the middle of August even the batteries in my Min Ultra were coming out of the plane hotter than I felt good about.



ORIGINAL: fliprob17

Servo Installations - Make sure you get the required extensions, (2) 12" and (1) 6" and (1) 6" Y harness - would be a bummer to have to run out to the LHS while all excited and building :)
Depends on where you mount your receiver. I used the 12' extensions and they were too long. I mounted the receiver at the back of the radio compartment, and I had to turn it around to take up the slack, and then I had to tape the excess to the fuse wall to keep it from falling out of the cooling vent. I suggest you put the servos and receiver in, and then see what you need. I could have gotten away with 6' extensions.


ORIGINAL: fliprob17

Canopy - ]As long as you sand down the fuse and the canopy so the glue adheres better, everything here looks straight forward as well.
Too much work. I simply screwed the canopy on using Dubro self tapping allen head screws. looks cool too. Too about five minutes and I can take it off if I want to put a pilot in or tint the canopy some more.


ORIGINAL: fliprob17

Without having the actual plane yet, the manual looks pretty good. The step by step seems well thought out.
The manual is outstanding, and spinner.adapter snafu aside, if you follow the directions to the letter you'll have a perfect little plane. I've probably build 25 ARFs this year (mine and some for friends) and none of them (Even the Mini Ultras) have come out of the box, fell together with no effort, and were absolutely perfect, but this plane was.



Fliprob17 10-13-2006 11:12 AM

RE: E-Flite Mini Pulse XT Owner's Club
 
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Thanks for all the insight, that is a bunch of great info. I like the idea behind the cockpit mount and having the option to take it off later.

I could not get the 2-1/4" wheels to work with or without the wheel pants. The hole in the hub of the wheels for the bolt to attach to the gear is too large and the wheel wobbles entirely too much. Also, trying to get a larger bolt will not work because it won't fit in the gear. So I will work on this mod. and try it later. I am either going to get bearings and a sleeve for the larger hole in the hub of the wheels or drill out the gear to accept the larger bolt required and trim the wheel pants to accept the larger wheel. They nearly fit into the pants, so just a little trimming.

You hit the 480 motor mount issue right on the head. I tried both ways, mounting the plate to the motor then the bolts, and putting the bolts on first then the plate. Neither worked. So I put the small silver washers the motor came with between the motor and the mounting plate that came with the plane, to get just barely enough gap for the head of the bolt to clear the back of the motor. It worked, but I lost a little bit of screw holding power into the motor, probably not enough to wiggle loose or anything, but to be safe I used a little bit of light duty Locktite on the screws that mount the mounting plate to the motor. There are some pics below. It was still tricky getting the allen wrench in there, scratched the motor a little, but all in all it should be fine. Also, the supplied motor mount that came with the plane does not fit the 480 the way the manual wants you put it on. The wires can not wind up going down, the holes do not line up. So the wires have to go to the right or left.

I am working on the rest today, and will post some pics as I go.

Fliprob17 10-13-2006 05:47 PM

RE: E-Flite Mini Pulse XT Owner's Club
 
I have it pretty much done now. Just working on placing the ESC and receiver. I did run into a couple of things and thought I would share. The tailwheel does not come with the 1/16" collar that is required to attach it to the rudder assembly. The parts list for the cowl installation list (4) 2mmx8mm wood screws, but in the actual instruction it says use 2mmx8mm sheet metal screws. You use the wood screws obviously. The little sheet metal screws are actually for the servo control rods. Otherwise, the whole things was not too bad. The cowl is the toughest part. Really take your time I nearly missed the tabs on the fuse with the drill, luckily i just barely went into the fuse, so I could redo it. I will get some pics up later.

MrMulligan 10-13-2006 06:18 PM

RE: E-Flite Mini Pulse XT Owner's Club
 
My Mini-Pulse arrived today. This is a nice ARF. It compares well with the Mini Ultra Stik and the Ultra Stik 25E. I have the book out for some reading during the baseball game.


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