LARGE Electric 4ch RTF?
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Hi, I got out of flying RC planes about the time brushless RC started showing up. I told myself I'd get back into it when large electric RTFs became available. That was about 8 years ago, I think.
I want a low wing stunt flyer that I can see easily and that can handle significant wind. It MUST be RTF. I don't have time to build ARFs.
I looked through some websites, without any luck. I also asked a guy at a hobby shop if these exist yet, and he said no.
This is my last stop before waiting probably another 8 years to check back. Is there anything out there for me like I want?
I want a low wing stunt flyer that I can see easily and that can handle significant wind. It MUST be RTF. I don't have time to build ARFs.
I looked through some websites, without any luck. I also asked a guy at a hobby shop if these exist yet, and he said no.
This is my last stop before waiting probably another 8 years to check back. Is there anything out there for me like I want?
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First, define LARGE. To many it is 40 inch wing span, other, 90 inch span.
Being some where in the middle
http://www.nitroplanes.com/60a-dy896...t-rtf-24g.html
http://www.nitroplanes.com/95a703-14...r-rtf-24g.html
http://www.nitroplanes.com/95a501-11...d-rtf-24g.html
http://www.bananahobby.com/4-ch-blit...plane-rtf.html
Not the OLD style ARF
http://www.nitroplanes.com/05a330-blue-arf-nv.html
http://www.nitroplanes.com/05a330-red-arf.html
Buzz.
Being some where in the middle
http://www.nitroplanes.com/60a-dy896...t-rtf-24g.html
http://www.nitroplanes.com/95a703-14...r-rtf-24g.html
http://www.nitroplanes.com/95a501-11...d-rtf-24g.html
http://www.bananahobby.com/4-ch-blit...plane-rtf.html
Not the OLD style ARF
http://www.nitroplanes.com/05a330-blue-arf-nv.html
http://www.nitroplanes.com/05a330-red-arf.html
Buzz.
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Thanks! I prefer tail draggers, so that Mustang looks promising. What I really want is that first ARF you linked. How many hours do you think would likely be required to complete it? The last ARF I built took 40 hours of my time. I'd rather hire someone local to finish it if I can do that.
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RTFs are usually targeted at new pilots so I would not expect to find an RTF of the type you request. But, as stated above, what do you mean by large? 100" wing span? 20 pounds? giant scale?
Foam, wood, fiberglass?
Unlimited budget? Under $1200?
By definition RTF means it includes a radio so I presume you don't have a radio.
This is 48". I don't consider this large
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXCPFR&P=ML
If you have a Spektrum, this is Bind and Fly
Again, not that large, 54"
http://www.horizonhobby.com/products...gy-EFL10250#t2
Foam, wood, fiberglass?
Unlimited budget? Under $1200?
By definition RTF means it includes a radio so I presume you don't have a radio.
This is 48". I don't consider this large
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXCPFR&P=ML
If you have a Spektrum, this is Bind and Fly
Again, not that large, 54"
http://www.horizonhobby.com/products...gy-EFL10250#t2
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I agree that 48 inches is not really large. 60 inches is more acceptable. If giant class is available, I would love to hear about it. But I think I could be happy with something 60 inches or more.
I used to have a radio, but it was stolen (kind of ironic considering my user name) :-), along with several glow planes. I'm basically starting over. But I'd be more than open to bind and fly.
As far as material, I am not that picky. I'm not a huge fan of the foam, but I doubt there is any other option, so I guess I'll take foam if that's all that's available.
As far as expense goes, I have more money than time, so that's not the deciding factor. I'd rather get the right thing, if you know what I mean.
I used to have a radio, but it was stolen (kind of ironic considering my user name) :-), along with several glow planes. I'm basically starting over. But I'd be more than open to bind and fly.
As far as material, I am not that picky. I'm not a huge fan of the foam, but I doubt there is any other option, so I guess I'll take foam if that's all that's available.
As far as expense goes, I have more money than time, so that's not the deciding factor. I'd rather get the right thing, if you know what I mean.
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Typical set-up time on an ARF is about 4 to 8 hours.
Install Motor 30 minutes to 2 hours depending on your selection and talent.
Install 4 servos - 1-3 hours depending on your talent
Install receiver - 15 min to 1 hour
Install ESC - 5 to 15 minutes
Install battery - 5 min.
Program radio - 30 minutes to 3 hours depending on your talent with your radio and what you want programmed
So do your calculations and make your decision. Simple ARF could be ready to fly in as little as 3 hours, not counting the time to select and buy the electronics.
I would say this would be up to about a 70" wing span 4 channel aircraft with one servo per surface. Above that there is a chance you may be putting more than one servo on a surface. Or you might have split elevators or flaps which would require more servos.
If you are using a standard 4 channel radio there is little to program. If you are using a computer radio than you may want to set up some fancy mixing.
So, your smileage will vary.
Install Motor 30 minutes to 2 hours depending on your selection and talent.
Install 4 servos - 1-3 hours depending on your talent
Install receiver - 15 min to 1 hour
Install ESC - 5 to 15 minutes
Install battery - 5 min.
Program radio - 30 minutes to 3 hours depending on your talent with your radio and what you want programmed
So do your calculations and make your decision. Simple ARF could be ready to fly in as little as 3 hours, not counting the time to select and buy the electronics.
I would say this would be up to about a 70" wing span 4 channel aircraft with one servo per surface. Above that there is a chance you may be putting more than one servo on a surface. Or you might have split elevators or flaps which would require more servos.
If you are using a standard 4 channel radio there is little to program. If you are using a computer radio than you may want to set up some fancy mixing.
So, your smileage will vary.
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that plane is pretty much ready to go. Here is a long thread on the plane and what others have done to it and with it.
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1979070
There are a few who converted it to a tail dragger too.
If any of the new ARF's take you 40 hours, something is very wrong. I know I tend to build FAST, but I was putting together the Tower Trainer 60 in a couple hours. You can also look for Rx ready. that way the servos, motor are all ready installed.
I did a couple foam ARF's in under an hour.
Buzz.
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1979070
There are a few who converted it to a tail dragger too.
If any of the new ARF's take you 40 hours, something is very wrong. I know I tend to build FAST, but I was putting together the Tower Trainer 60 in a couple hours. You can also look for Rx ready. that way the servos, motor are all ready installed.
I did a couple foam ARF's in under an hour.
Buzz.
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The Aerosky you mentioned above already has the motor, ESC, and servos installed. It says no gluing . This should go together in about an hour to an hour and one-half. All you need is a battery, a Tx, an Rx, a battery charger and some Velcro strips to secure the Rx and battery.
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i have pretty much decided at this point to get a carbon Z splendor. Thanks for linking that one.
I used to have Futaba 6xA (stolen) and discovered the battery time on that radio really wasn't enough to fly multiple planes in a session, and that I would have been better off having a separate radio for each plane. Is that still the case, or should I reconsider and get just one multiple plane radio?
I used to have Futaba 6xA (stolen) and discovered the battery time on that radio really wasn't enough to fly multiple planes in a session, and that I would have been better off having a separate radio for each plane. Is that still the case, or should I reconsider and get just one multiple plane radio?
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I finally sprung for the night visionaire. Flew it for the first time this evening.
And now there's the carbon z 78 inch bnf t24
http://www.motionrc.com/e-flite-carb...FQMbaQodUGgAug
pretty sure this is my next plane
edit: yep, got it today
And now there's the carbon z 78 inch bnf t24
http://www.motionrc.com/e-flite-carb...FQMbaQodUGgAug
pretty sure this is my next plane
edit: yep, got it today
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