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Old 11-23-2003, 01:54 AM
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Hi,

I would like to apologize for my bad English first. I'm not English speaking, and am living in English speaking country for only one year.

I have already bought and flown a ready-to-fly plane for few weeks now. It was a cheap plane, and I'm looking for something that could do basic acrobatics like loops & rolls, but still be stable in the air, and easy to control, and hopefully give long performance (15-30 min). I was given many advices, but due to shortage of money those weren't satisfying for me. I want to ask if anybody has or know link to high quality free plans, with step by step directions, recommended part to buy(servos, radio, etc) and drawing of each separate part, of a plane that can be built for $100-150. I would prefer a balsa plane, but foam would be acceptable too.

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Old 11-25-2003, 11:49 AM
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go to combatwings.com as the wing is a real good beginner plane, but does awesome aerobatics...
Old 11-26-2003, 02:18 PM
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I've found nice plans at foamyfactory.com, but I would want something more like Slow Stick
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One of the easiest planes to build and fly is the Miss Bohemia or Bloody Mary, they are made of balsa and will do mild aerobatics with great performance, they are made of balsa wood and come precovered. I learned to fly with the Mis Bohemia and still have it. It's great, with a 7 cell 800 mah battery I get about 20 min of flying time. I bought mine used but I think Hobby-Lobby carries them new. Good Luck, by the way your enblish is pretty good.
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I don't think that you would say that I can speak english at all if you would hear me speak At least not with my accent.
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PS Are the plans of any of those planes available?
Old 11-30-2003, 08:48 AM
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denysy

What kind of plane have you been flying?

15 minutes is a long fight time. 30 minutes is a VERY long flight time unless you are ready to spend a lot of money on expensive batteries.

I have gone the Ready to Fly route.

I started flying in March of 2003. I had no interest in building models, so I
went the R-T-F route. I think this is such a great way to get started.

I am a first timer. However I am also one of these guys that goes into intense
research when I get interested in something. After several months of research,
talking to people, flyers I decided to start with an electric parkflyer. I
looked at lots of planes and packages and selected the Aerobird. It is a
super value and very easy to fly. The new version, the Aerobird Challenger
looks to be an eaven better performer. Also, it has two flight modes - Sport
for the beginner or relaxed flyer and Exper for the more advanced or agressive
flyer.

HobbyZone AEROBIRD THREE CHANNEL ELECTRIC PARKFLYER

Very inexpensive and rugged for a three channel starter - $120-$150
The plane comes complete and fully assembled. Charge the flight battery, put
on the wing, put the batteries in the transmitter and up you go! Even the
batteries for the transmitter are included. Flight times of 12-15 minutes are possible.

Here is a review of the Aerobird ( before the new Aerobird Challenger)

http://www1.wildhobbies.com/news/def...&articleid=853
On these pages you will find Videos of the Aerobird in flight
http://www.parkflyers.com/html/aerobird_video.html
http://www.modelflight.com.au/model_flight_videos.htm

With 100+ flights on the Aerobird, I fly in 15 MPH winds and fly with great
confidence. Personally, after all the bad landings I am amazed that the plane
still flies, I love it and have recommended it to many friends who fly them
now as well. They all learned very quickly!

SKY SCOOTER PRO II

The Sky Scooter Pro II is another plane I like.
You can get it as an ARF or as a RTF package with a 72 MHZ Hitec 3 channel
radio for about $160. When I bought the Aerobird, this package was $260, now
it is $160 and well worth your consideration.
http://www.hitecrcd.com/Funtec/Pro2.htm
Videos
http://www.hitecrcd.com/Funtec/videos.htm


From Electric Park Flyer to Glider


THE GREAT PLANES SPRIT SELECT 2 METER

If you are more interested in sailplanes than parkflyers, the Spirit Select is
completely assembled with all the electronics installed. It includes a 72 MHZ
single stick radio. This is very easy to use and is very similar in look and
fell similar to the Aerobird's radio so I picked it right up and flew. It is
branded Hobbico, but it is really a Hitec radio.

Here is a link to the site where I purchased it for $139 complete!
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...I=LXVK55**&P=7

Here is a link to the ARF version where you can find links to two product
reviews. If you want to do some building, the ARF is the route, but for an
extra $40, I got the radio and the plane ready to fly. For me that was
perfect.
http://www.greatplanes.com/airplanes/gpma1045.html
Video
http://www.greatplanes.com/gallery/gpma16.mov

The plane has spoilers built in the wings that are not set-up when you get the
plane, but you don't have to enable them if you don't want to. Makes a good
project for later, and but the instructions tell you how to do it. I will do
that soon.

I started flying the Spirit in Mid July and have about 65 flights on it. In
the begining I focused on hi-start launching and landing practice. I now have
that down pretty well. However, this plane has a reputation of being a great
thermalling plane. I have had flights of 15-20 mintues and had the plane so
high it was a dot in the sky. I would definitely recommend it.


SPECTRA MOTOR GLIDER

I don't have one of these, but if you are more likely to buy a motor glider
than a pure sailplane, there is a verison of the Spirit called the Spectra.
Essentially the same plane, but with a motor. Again, tower has it for $199
RTF - Add $10 for everreadys and you are set.
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...I=LXVJ51**&P=7


Both the Aerobird and the Spirit have been a pleasure. I would recommend them
to anyone starting out in electrics or gliders who would like to go the
ready-to-fly route rather then building.
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wow, how long did it take you to write all this? Anyway, out of these planes Aerobird would be the best plane for me I think. But I have decided to get plans of some nice plane and make it myself week ago. I'm searching for plans of a plane that would fit my needs right now. If I don't find anything I think I will buy Aerobird Challenger. I still have few weeks before I plan so start my next plane (or buy it). So I have plenty of time.

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