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Old 01-22-2005, 06:26 PM
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I am putting together a Tribute, are other foam planes such a pain when installing the tail section. I am using foam safe CA, but it does not want to hold the horizonal stab in place, and the elevator a royal pain getting the balsa glued and rehinged, especially when one side is alreay hinged to begin with. Why does it take the glue so long to set, 5 minute epoxy would be faster almost?
Old 01-22-2005, 07:08 PM
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You have to use accelerator for it to dry faster. Make sure its foam compatible. Your hobby store should have it and if not then order it from tower hobbies.
Old 01-22-2005, 07:23 PM
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Yes its foam compatible. It set and seems to be doing pretty good. I really dont want to buy accelerator. The hobby shop is closed, and tower takes a few days. I would have could have my Stearman done way before then lol. I am just in too much of a hurry and am used to the way CA and balsa work.
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Default RE: Are All Foam Planes This Much Of A Hassle

I used UFO CA on my Tribute and found the same problem... I ran a bead of aliphatic resin (white glue) around the joint which stabilized it.
And on the wing also.
The wings... will BEND when flying!
Depending on how this affects you, it will be amusing/alarming..
The cure is CF or Kevlarâ„¢ or fish-line rigging from tip to tip.. ala the attached.
The ply plates give some meat for holding the loads.
Also, the plane is a DOG with the supplied motor.
It must have a brushlees and Lipos.. mine uses the E-Flite 5400 kv and 2s1500 Lipos.
It does everything I could wish for with that setup.
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Old 01-22-2005, 08:56 PM
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Thanks for the tips and pictures. I went ahead and got the same motor you have, and lipo 2s1320. I love watching wings that bend. I have a parkzone cub, and I love just trying to snap the wing in a dive, but no such luck yet. My biggest problem is my size 12 ring fingers. Little parts and big fingers does not mix that well. The main reason I wanted this plane was to practice hovering in my yard and on the porch before spring when I start messing with some of my large scale planes that I have modified. I got the plane and electronics in a trade, and I hope I can get a couple dozen flights on it before I kill the airframe. I will definately use the white glue on it to start with and then add the others as I go. Thanks.
Old 01-22-2005, 09:01 PM
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Default RE: Are All Foam Planes This Much Of A Hassle

Just FYI, there are a couple of reasons foam safe CA doesn't work as fast on foam. First, it's missing the ingredients that make it both fast curing, and foam eating... Second, CA requires moisture to cure. Balsa has some moisture in the pores of the wood naturally. Foam doesn't.

The Bob Smith accelerator in the pump bottle is foam safe, and most hobby shops carry it.
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I used a damp paper towel along the joint to speed it up. Usually I just get it wet, then get all the water out I can and thats enough to start the set process.
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Now I am fighting the push rod holders. Any advice there?
Old 01-24-2005, 09:29 PM
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I used 5 min epoxy on the control rod holders.
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"Free" foam-safe accelerator:

Baking soda and water. No joke!
Old 01-26-2005, 09:14 PM
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I am taking a break for now. I will work on it more this weekend. I might try the epoxy.
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Yup Mac...Ive been using water and baking soda for a while now. Total cost about 3cents...vs $5+ for some accelerator.
Old 01-26-2005, 10:36 PM
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I used some silcone RTV and it seems to hold great and is a little flexible to account for shock loads. Shoe Goo or one of the silcone adhesives from Home Depot works fine.

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