hezik

Wouldn't there be IC and EP versions of this bird?

Doug Cronkhite

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No. Chris has said there are no plans for an IC version.

hezik

I think they made the right decision in that, but for glow powered flyers.. the prototype was glow powered:



(note the big YS stickers on the cowl)

Now I don't know how much difference there is between that prototype and the production version.

MTK

Could be. You apparently have one to be so sure that it won't work, so is the wing/stab balsa veneered foam or balsa sticks?

I'll get a chance to see Archie's up close next weekend. One thing that appears true from the photos, the lite ply used on their 78" Extra is likely the same as used in this model. It's very good material. Construction technique appears the same. It should be a matter of how much bracing has been designed in. Easy enuff to determine close up.

Archie, apologies up front for taking your thread on a small tangent. All I'm gonna say on this subject

rcpattern

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Matt,

After looking closely this evening and discussing with a couple of guys at my field who fly bigger glow stuff. They agree, the structure is definitely there. The fuse is almost all light ply, and I think its possible. It would definitely take some modification, but I do think the structure is there.

Arch

rcpattern

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OK, back to the thread. I was able to get 4 more flights on the plane today. After slightly adjusting the incidence, I now have zero mix in any attitude, including down lines. The more I fly it, the more I like it. After adjusting the rates slightly, I was able to get the snaps, both positive and negative snaps were very clean and easy. I am very happy with how its flying.

Arch

Mastertech

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My only question on the design of the airplane so far is the wing adjusters. How did they work for you?

I'd think when I get mine I'm inclined to use Gators in the rear and as supplied in the front.

Tim

rcpattern

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Tim,

They work well, but they aren't as easy to make small adjustments as the Gators. It can be done, but its hard to make quite as fine movements. Gator's in the rear and these in the front would work great. These do work, its just tougher to make very small incremental adjustments,

Arch

viva_peru

Hi,

Nice build thread and flight report. It looks like I can even put one of these together myself. Any chance of maybe filming one of the flights, ideally with the plane flying through one of the sequences? It is funny, but it seems that many of the videos used along with the review or to promote pattern planes (Sebart comes to mind), show the planes flying something other than a sequence. It would nice to see a pattern plane actually flying a sequence.

Thanks,

Teo

rcpattern

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Teo

I am working on that. Having a tough time locating a camera that is worth using. I will say though, that I was able to put up a Masters flight yesterday that would make the finals, so the plane has no issues. I plan to let anyone who wants to fly it this weekend in PA get a flight on it.

Arch

rcpattern

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Structurally most of the plane was similar. The nose area was different on the glow prototype. It also had a pipe tunnel. The more I look at this one, the more convinced I am it could be done. This fuse is more heavily built than my Black Magic as the motor box area is all light ply and very rigid.

I am sure Matt will chime in after he is able to look at mine this weekend.

Arch

Dave55

Arch

Very nice plane and a great build report. Looking forward to seeing it at the Pax field. And ,you can take a pull on my Osiris and tell me what you think.

Dave

rcpattern

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Sounds good Dave. I definitely want to give you some time on the sticks. I plan on being out all week getting ready for a contest this weekend and next. I wont be out at all either weekend, but should be out most days in the evenings,

Arch

pappy35

So, being a bit disappointed about not being able to get one, when will the next batch be here and will will there be enough of them to supply us non-sponsored, mere mortal flyers?

Doug Cronkhite

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Mid-June is the best guess I think.

Mastertech

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As I understand it there were a total of 5 imported. The next batch should hit in around 6 weeks. They will not take preorders either.

Tim

pappy35

Well, I sure hope they get more than 5 next time, I've been waiting years, literally.

Mike Wiz

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Gee Arch, ya got it done quickly! I know it's an ARF and all but I never get em done that fast. Either you really work quick of the plane really goes together fast..... or a little of both. I'm very happy to read that it flies so well. It sounds like the perfect "serious but not too serious" pattern guy plane. Thanks for the time spent posting the build and the flying comments.

Mastertech

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Scuttle butt was (And we know how that is) 150 in the next shipment.

I really liked what I saw on the ground and in the air.

Will a "serious" FAI guy fly this in "serious comps?"

I really doubt you'll see Chip with one at the worlds

Will the rest of us fly it in "Serious comps?"

Will they be all over the circuit and the Nats soon?

You betcha.

Tim

MTK

The Focus was flown that way.....It won the F3A Nats in Donny's hands. A very capable airframe in the hands of a very capable pilot. A very forgiving airframe that has been flown for a decade by expert and novice alike

This new model has an awful lot of similar promise. Maybe even more....but time will tell.

rcpattern

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Mike,

It really went together nicely. It took about 7 1/2 hours and I wasn't rushing. Stuff just fit. I'd sit down to do something and then the next thing I'd know, I'd done 4 steps as they just go really quickly.

Arch

BR289

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Arch,
Glad to see and hear your first flights went well.
Yes, the Vanquish I was "Posing" with in the picture WAS powered by a YS 1.70 and flew nicely with it. I don't quite remember if it "Made weight" or not but nonetheless really flew well.
As far as I know that will still be the other color scheme available when production kicks into high gear....but as far as a "Glow Version" all I can say is Electric for the near future.
Blair

BR289

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As Arch stated, this was the build thread and he doesn't know any more about availability as I do. We were hoping to have gotten more from the first shipment but it didn't happen to work that way. We ARE expecting more in the next shipment hopefully withing the next six weeks or so.
As Arch stated before, he is NOT an Extreme Flight sponsored pilot but was more than qualified to do this build thread and get the plane out there for people to give a go at the sticks.
I too am waiting for mine...and I knew about it long before anyone else....and after flying both versions I have just as hard a time as the others.. ;-)
Blair

Doug Cronkhite

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Can't wait to get my hands on one. Sounds like it really is a winner all the way around. The fact that Extreme Flight can mass-produce an up-to-date predominantly wood airframe, and have it EASILY come in under 11 pounds without using the lightest available components is awesome. Hopefully it'll give other companies some incentive to give this a try as well. It sure is nice to know you don't HAVE to spend $2-3k to get a truly capable 2M F3A airplane.

petec

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I had a chance to fly Arch's Vanquish today, as did a number of other guys. It's a very straight flying airplane, way better than my thumbs, and it isn't hurting for power. It's very impressive to fly and well built. The fit and finish is very good. I didn't hear a single disparaging comment from anyone who flew it.

I love to build but this thing changes the game, I don't think I could finish out an electric to that weight for the price. I know I have more into my VF3 than $650 just to get it to the point of being ready for motor and radio.