Dansy

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The Q60 bolt up on the already installed blind nuts

snoopytoo

Hi guys - Happy New Year! Just completing my Vanquish and setting it up as many of you have suggested ie +0.6 on wings, 0 on stab, cg180mm. This should get me safely into the air (and down again!). Really looking forward to flying as it is my first 2 metre model and a first for electric.

I am concerned that even getting 20 degree throw on aileron/elevator requires the end points to be closed down quite away. I usually like to have over 100% to maximise resolution, but at the moment I am down to 65%(Futaba) and alot less for 12-15 degrees. Do any of you extend the control horns on the surfaces, or am I worrying to much?

cmoulder

Just move the control link point farther in (toward the output gear hub) on the servo arm, increase rates.

jetmech43

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Has anyone had any experience with their Fury motor running hot, I just installed the Fury on my vanquish, had an e-flight 160 on it before, but the fury seems to run hotter, by touch it does anyway, if so what is the cure.

3dsky

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ESC timing not set to match motor, and try to measure the current /Watts to see if your are overloaded. . prop to big? Just a few things to start. Try to measure with infrared temp probe, you may be ok.

jetmech43

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Well the prop is a 21 -13 so that shouldn't be an issue, might check into the esc timing, I will see if I can set it for the fury, didn't figure I would need to since it wasn't an issue with the eflight 160

jetmech43

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What are all you guys set up, expo, DR etc, everytime I make a change the worse it gets

KenChoo

Has anyone flown F-15 in high winds with their Vanquish yet? I just tried it today in about 15mph headwinds and had trouble being blown downwind on the knife edge golfball...this was with rudder nearly maxed out and throttle almost full. I'm using the Himax 210...

cheers,
Ken

Dansy

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Interesting, I'm hoping that my Q60 will be able to fly it......just can't fly here, still very much in winter weather here.....

nosram

I have two quick questions that I hope I can get help with:

1. I thought I had the CofG correctly set, but when I try and set the mixes up I need quite a bit of rudder into elevator mix........something like 20%. Its =ve in one direction and -ve in the other. Granted the amount of rudder for knife edge is small, so when holding rudder for knife edge there is actually very little elevator being added with the mix. It just seems like a lot of mix.

2. After about 15 flights I have noticed that the paint on the canopy is coming off. The red mainly has split and is peeling at the front, where the red and black meet. Is this a regular problem and what is the recommended fix? It seems that the paint is too thick and there is an adhering problem to the fiber glass. I could try and take pictures and post them if that helps..........

Thank you in advance for any advice.....

rcpattern

My Feedback: (45)

For the mix, you may need to use a point type mix. I will ask where your CG is. It sounds as if you are tail heavy. Also, check your wing incidence,

Arch

nosram

Thank you Arch,
I need to re-check them, but I believe my CG is on the leading edge of the carbon tube. I set the wings with 0.6 degrees +ve.
I need to check if they are still the same.
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Anyone had problems with paint on the canopy?

rcpattern

My Feedback: (45)

Another thing to check is stab/elevator alignment. Believe it or not, that can cause this as well. Dave Locmake showed me this a few years ago.

g_mkoch

I've never had any paint problems on any of my vanquishes, you might want to contact Extreme Flight

nosram

Thank you g_mkoch, I called Extreme Flight and have sent them an email with pictures.

nosram

This is the worst side, the left hand side. There appears to be zero adhesion under the paint, maybe the fiberglass still has release agent on it.
Nick Marson

wryman

My Feedback: (9)

Very common for the paint to crack, mine has it worse than yours on both sides and another D2 pilot that I flew against last season has the same issue in the exact same spot. The whole front of the fuse twists when I apply power quickly(observed with canopy off) and I suspect this twisting is causing flexing on the canopy.

tele1974

Gear repair.

nosram

I am very disappointed with the Extreme Flight. I sent them pictures together with an email, explaining that I purchased the plane in May. It was completed by November, and after just 15 flights the paint is peeling off.

After my second email and two phone calls Curtis Cozier at Extreme stated that he has never heard or seen of this before! In addition because of the amount of time since my purchase they are not going to stand by it from a warranty point of view. The offer was made for me to purchase another canopy at full market price!! No doubt the paint will fall off that one as well.....

Don't you just love a manufacturer who stands by his product !!

Nick Marson

Optimate

nosram, I had a crack about the same spot as yours. In fact, two of them, one on each side. I thought it was the paint, but it turned out that the weave separates from the epoxi. It delaminates. The crack will progress and widen real bad. A manufacturing defect without doubt.
In my case the dealer agreed to a price reduction without arguing. This was more than two years ago, i e an early production run. They should have sorted it out by now, one should expect. Obviously not.

flier1

Mine was the same, bought over a year ago, price reduction from the dealer to cover the problem when bought new as no chance of a replacement in the uk

nosram

Extreme Flight apparently has no intention of standing by their product.

Curtis Cozier told me that there was not a problem with the paint adhesion to the canopy, in fact he claimed mine is the very first instance of this.
I know this is not true because a friend of mine at my club had the same problem and in the same place. His had never been flown, it just sat in the box for about a year.

If this was a $100 foam plane I would accept it, but I have about $1500 into this one, that's not including the batteries.

Of more concern is the fact that this problem has been there since the beginning and nothing has been done to rectify the poor paint adhesion problem. Lets hope for Extreme Flights perspective that its not on all of his craft, add vibration from a big gasser into the equation and who knows how long the paint finish will last!!

Nick Marson

Ryan Smith

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Out of curiosity to those with paint cracked on your canopies- has your canopy been stressed (fiberglass flexed to the point of cracking) at any point? If there is any spider webbing of the fiberglass on the underside of the areas where you're having issue with paint, that can cause it. I accidentally hit my elbow on the canopy of one of my Partners many years ago and the paint cracked on both sides on the front part of the "canopy" portion of the hatch.

I've had many Extreme Flight airplanes, as well as other airplanes manufactured by their manufacturer and find their paint prep and quality (among everything else) to be much better than other ARF factories. You may have accidentally whacked the canopy to cause it. My Vanquish doesn't have too many (<50 flights), but virtually all of them have been flying Masters or P with no issues whatsoever. The five other Vanquishes that I've either flown or setup or built have not had this issue, and other than these three instances, I've not heard or seen any other airplanes exhibiting this defect.

aerobear

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I don't mean to make excuses for Extreme Flight or criticize your response to the problem, but this is pretty typical for Asian ARFs (as if there is any other kind). I have seen this on another Vanquish. Good paint work is very labor intensive. Prep work is 95% of the job. The entire surface has to be sanded to break up the glossy surface. The results depend on the motivation of the worker on any particular day. If the production schedule is behind or profits are slim, it's very tempting to let this slip.

Here is a pic from another well known ARF importer.

It does not show up on camera, but there is no sanding anywhere, sprayed right out of the mold on the glossy glass. With a proper prep job and quality paint, the glass and paint are practically one, impossible to separate. Again, I don't want to make excuses for EF, but once you have done a few paint jobs on a molded composite you gain some appreciation for what a top quality job costs.

I wonder what the same plane would cost, produced in the USA with legal labor. Double? Triple?

wryman

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Here is the left side of mine. I have wicked in some CA and it doesn't seem to be getting any worse. The right side crack I caught early and have CA'd it so it isn't noticeable. They started with approx. 20 flights and now have approx. 100. Obviously several are cracking in the same place then it is something they need to address. Like I said in previous post there are others in D2 that have same cracks.