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Old 04-30-2010, 07:48 PM
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If you like to test stuff, I hope you'll post it here!






Being one who has an incredibly hard time not sharing whatever latest project I'm working on, I can't resist sharing my latest project well in advance of its fruition


First I ordered a new plane in which to test my ideas because its a 10S machine with an easily adapted motor mount:


[link=http://www.espritmodel.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=8624]Sebart's KatanaS 120e[/link]



and then being totally interested in a lighter outrunner I contacted Scorpion about building a custom 465g 220 kv outrunner:


From: Joseph A Peck [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2010 12:33 PM
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Subject: Re: Scorpion Motor Question

Lucien,

Thanks so much for the speedy reply.

I just got off the phone with a customer rep and placed the order for a S-4035-220 (17 turn) motor. I'm very excited to give this motor a try as I am certain it will be a "game changer" in the world of F3A planes!



Thanks again,



Joe





On Apr 26, 2010, at 7:35 PM, Lucien Miller wrote:


Joe,

We did do a variation of the S-4035-250 motor for a customer once before for a large WWI biplane he was building. This motor was wound with 3 extra turns of wire per phase, with 18 turns instead of 15 turns, and the Kv value came out just a hair under 210, something around 208 if I remember right. If we did that motor with a 17 turn wind, theoretically, it should come out with a Kv of 220.6, which is about as close as we can get for you.

As far as the cost of the motor, we would not charge you $500.00 for it, not $400.00 or even $300.00. The regular retail price for a motor like that is $169.99, and when we do a custom version of that size motor, there is only an extra charge of $20.00, so you could get one custom made for $189.99. How is that for a bargain!

If this is OK with you, we can get one on order for you and have it here in a few weeks.

You can call the office and place the order. We would need to get a credit card number from you for payment at the time of the order. Once the order is placed, it would be non-refundable and non-returnable.

Just let me know what you want to do.

Thanks!

Lucien Miller
Innov8tive Designs, Inc.
1495 Poinsettia Avenue, Suite 144
Vista, CA 92081
Phone: 760-468-8838
Fax: 760-305-7749


and what's more I have in my possession a new Turnigy which I intend to use as well. Personally, I think it will drive the plane just fine, but we'll see!













So if you're into testing new stuff feel free to post the info here!






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Hi Joe,
I've enjoyed your posts, testing, and comments these last few months. Great to see someone with such enthusiasm and time.

I've been trying to re-kick-start pattern in my area. I've been feeling that a great flying, inexpensive, electric 2m plane would help greatly in the ability to recruit. Seems like there are some good options now with lower priced motors and batteries, with ESCs being reasonable. What we really need now is a modern design 2m ARF in the $750 price range. Maybe I'm dreaming

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Hey Dan,

I hope to catch up with you next time you hit the east coast, or perhaps better yet when work drags me out to the "Big Sky" country of Colorado.

As for your wishes, I don't think they are that far off at all. People I know have been in direct talks with Ben from 3DHobbyShop.com, and they will most definitely have a sub-$1000 2M arf by the end of this year. Not that I need another plane anytime soon, just that I couldn't agree more with you on the need for a quality Pattern dedicated entry e-machine. The plane will be a big version of the Osiris.



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So the latest test for me will be my new [link=http://shop.rc-electronic.com/e-vendo.php?shop=k_emcotec_e&SessionId=&a=article&ProdNr=A72005&t=11&c=764&p=764]Emcotec SPS[/link] (Safety Power Switch). Recently I had a tx shut off on the ground and the prop spin up while it was on the table so I decided to invest in some protection. I'm certain this gizmo has not seen a lot of use in the US, but I gather it is quite popular in Europe. So far the tests in my basement are very encouraging, seems to work like magic. The best part of all is that with my new redundant pwr system and Emcotec all in my E-Motion still weighs a mere 3729g (8 lbs 3.5 ozs)
















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G'day Joe,

You've fitted the arming magnet/socket incorrectly. The clear piece you have on the outside goes on the inside of the model.

See photo attached..

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One more thing... I remove the keyring from the arming magnet so it doesn't scratch the paintwork when blowing in the wind.

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Jason,

Thanks so much for turning me on to the SPS in the first place! Truth be told though as always I have to do things slightly different. I tried putting the black on the outside and didn't like the look so I tried the clear plastic on the outside and found that to be slightly less intrusive to the eye. Backwards perhaps, but "beauty is in the eye of the beholder"



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Ohh and I almost forgot to mention . . . flew 9 packs today and loved the Emcotec, so simple, yet perfectly effective. I foresee Emcotec SPS's in all my future planes!


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Hi Joe,
Whats the all up weight of the SPS.

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Hey Brian,


46g with the long wires as it came out of the package, that, of course, with the plug not installed.
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That switch looks interesting.

They seem a bit on the pricey side though at €65 (around $84.00). Plus it looks like another €47 shipping!

Do they have a U.S. distributor? I didn't see a link to one, but I may have missed it.
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The test bed is almost ready . . . just waiting for the motor mount to arrive. First victim will hopefully be the Scorpion 4035-220 which I am having custom built in combination with a Turnigy $60 esc. I truly expect this little 465 gram motor to hit 2500 watts no problem but we'll see
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That switch looks interesting.

They seem a bit on the pricey side though at €65 (around $84.00). Plus it looks like another €47 shipping!

Do they have a U.S. distributor? I didn't see a link to one, but I may have missed it.


Sorry missed the question earlier. Here's the link for the US distributor:



[link=http://www.hkm-models.com/Emcotec%20Switches.html]Emcotec 60v/120A SPS[/link]




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Planning on bringing this plane to the contest this weekend for everyone to look at, but I feel this is a sub-$1000 Intermediate to Advanced e-machine crying out for discovery by the pattern crowd. Can't speak to it's flying characteristics yet, but based on my previous experience I expect nothing but the best. The plane is $495 has a 74 inch wingspan is designed for 10s and with the new Himax F3A motor, a Castle ICE 80 HV, and Zippy FlightMax 4400 15C batteries it comes in at 4976g AUW. I know . . . I know . . . some of you hate the Zippy's and think they are not enough, but I have a 2 year old set that I got used from a guy in Colorado of which I have no idea how "abused" or not they were and they still hit 70 amps no problem and at a mere $44 each how can you go wrong. Anyways just a consideration.


Sebart Katana $495
Himax F3a $250
Castle ICE 80 HV $161
Zippy 4400/15C $90



that's less than $1000 for a 74 inch 5000g plane !! [X(]



Standby for a flight report as well as some comparative data between the Pletty 30-10, Himax F3A, and the Pletty 25-12 as well as a report on the $70 Turnigy esc.



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Trivia:


I just realized this plane has the same wingspan as an Integral and is only 13 cm (5 inches) shorter. That's cool!
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That switch looks interesting.

They seem a bit on the pricey side though at €65 (around $84.00). Plus it looks like another €47 shipping!

Do they have a U.S. distributor? I didn't see a link to one, but I may have missed it.


Sorry missed the question earlier. Here's the link for the US distributor:



[link=http://www.hkm-models.com/Emcotec%20Switches.html]Emcotec 60v/120A SPS[/link]

Thanks for the link!

I may be trying out a larger electric setup soon, and their switch is a very good idea.




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