RE: Sebart Wind 110
 

I haven't tried it on the Wind.. but know from other planes that it DOES make huge difference on rudder.

Reason why I didn't try it (yet) on the wind, is because I feel Sebart has not included a real canalizer.. the thing that comes in the box is nothing more than a board of wood with some covering over it. It's ugly. Now I know F3A planes are ment to be functional, but I want it to look good as well.. and since I can do what I want to do with this plane, I haven't mounted it. I am making one myself, tho.

RE: Sebart Wind 110
 

Hi
Tianci. Yes I know about trimming an aeroplane. Still learning. I perefer my planes to be trimmed so that they require zero elevator trim. I had my Angel like that and it flew brilliant and only needed slight pressure inverted and no pressure upright. I would like to get my Wind to the same state.

Mike

RE: Sebart Wind 110
 

Mike or Hezik,

Do you have any sense how the Wind would compare to an Integral?

My Fliton just doesn't compare, and I'd like to have a backup plane that performs similarly to an Integral without spending $4000. Would the Wind be a candidate?


Joe

RE: Sebart Wind 110
 

Hi
cant really say. I havent flown an integral as yet. I do know that a Scots pilot of some note has flown a friends and was pretty impressed. I think you will find it doesnt fly as good as an Integral but the difference will be small.
What i can say is it flies alot better than an Angel S.

Mike

RE: Sebart Wind 110
 

Offcourse the Integral flies better, it's a full-fledged 2m F3A bird.

You might want to look at the Miss Wind .50. Our Dutch F3A champ owns 2 integrals and usually flies contests with them, but finished the final contest day with a Miss Wind .50, putting more than 10% distance between him and the rest, score-wise.

on windy days the Integral will win, so will the WindS 110, but on days with winds up to 3bft, the Miss Wind .50 outperforms both.

RE: Sebart Wind 110
 

Mike ... my Angel S had no mixing, only for downlines. The KE was sweet. No mix at all. The Wind S needs mixing for KE though.

Hezik ... I got the WindS and the Ms Wind so am I ready to take on the world? Hehehehehe ... just kidding. Can't imagine what its like when a Ms Wind 50 out flies 2M planes. Hemust have also been a really good pilot for sure. :)

RE: Sebart Wind 110
 

Hey Guys,
I am officially in liquidation mode. Trying to do everything I can to have this plane and the new Airtronics 10ch radio by next summer.

2 questions:
How is the visibility of the blue plane in the air?
Is 20C enough discharge for the batteries (4000 or 5000mah) with the recommended Hacker?

Thanks!

RE: Sebart Wind 110
 

Joe

Question #1 - I've never seen a blue one
Question #2 - Yes

tommy s

RE: Sebart Wind 110
 

tommy S

The blue plane is ok in the air, it has quite a lot of red on the underside.

John

RE: Sebart Wind 110
 

I'm trying to read through this whole thread and having a hard time keeping track:

Is it the consensus that the stock setup with 8S battery is lacking in power?

At least two have used the Scorpion motor - is it a direct fit, or does it require modification? I think one person said it was easy and one said it was hard.


I am only 1.25 years into the hobby and want the easiest setup I can get, however I fly pattern competitively and do not want a lack in power. What engine/battery combo should I use?

RE: Sebart Wind 110
 

I have flown a Blue one a lot. No problem with visibilty for me.

Real 20 C batteries work very well. A lot of manufacturers are not too accurate in their C Ratings. I have had very good luck with the Rhino 4900 packs from www.hobbycity.com. They out perform some of the higher rated brand names, and are far cheaper.

The one I fly started with the recommended setup. I was not too impressed with it. The Scorpion setup performs much better in my opinion. I remember that the Scorpion did require some small modification, that the owner said was very easy to do. It should not be a problem in making your choice.

RE: Sebart Wind 110
 

Boy do I have a deal for you . . . :)


How 'bout I send you a 6s Hacker motor and battery to start which will fit without modification, and then you report, and after your report I'll decide what to buy for mine ;)


I have a Fliton Inspire 90 that is 9lbs with a 6s 8000 mAh pack on an 18x12 APC prop, and it has way more power than I need. My guess is the Wind would fly well on the same setup as its weight is identical. Sadly I don't have 8s stuff to offer as a possibility, but I'm fairly certain that 6s will get the job done based on my experience, and I'm also certain that 10s 5000 will be overkill although 10s 8000 might be just right. Anyways just a thought . . .


JP

P.S. I also have a 10s Hyperion motor I'd be happy to send along as well ;)

RE: Sebart Wind 110
 

Joe

The Scorpion 4025 series motors are a direct fit, no mods required. I am running the 4025-12 on 6S 4900 Rhino, 17x10E APC prop. Unless you are intending to fly competition F3A in windy conditions this is an excellent setup. Economical and lightweight and has all the performance I need.

John

RE: Sebart Wind 110
 

Thanks John. I do intend on competing with this plane and wind is a fact of life in Vermont (and apparently at the NATS where I'd like to end up in a year or two).

I'm still trying to figure out how to calculate all this stuff, but it looks to me like the Scorpion 4025-16 on 8S should give me more power than the recommended Hacker setup, but maybe the Hacker would give more power on 10S than the Scorpion 4035.

I like 8S for cost and charging reasons, just don't want to sacrifice power.

RE: Sebart Wind 110
 

Joe

That sounds like a good compromise, and you will have no issues fitting the Scorpion.

regards

John

RE: Sebart Wind 110
 

Me loves the Scorpion 4035-250 on 10S, no mod required but the long wires of the Hacker makes life a lot easier ... its a lovely motor though. Not too overpowered. Its just right on a XOAR 17x10, hope my LHS got his new stock, I wanna try the XOAR 18x10, I need for her to pull a bit more amps. The Rhino 20C 5S 4,900s are really cheap, its about USD70 per pack.

RE: Sebart Wind 110
 

tIANci

Is that a wooden Xoar you are using and is it a specific electric prop?

regards

John

RE: Sebart Wind 110
 

John ... me using the E version, just bought the XOAR 18x10E today, will hope to test it out on Sun. :) Wonder how many amps she will be pulling. The 17x10 was pulling a mere 55A static. If it pulls about 75A then that will be fun. Prop hang perhaps? :)

RE: Sebart Wind 110
 

Okay ... the XOAR 18x10E is good stuff. It was pulling 68A with 2650W. The verticals are much nicer and she will prop hang at 50% stick. :) Punch outs are nice too. Batts are just starting to warm up and the ESC is only warm.

RE: Sebart Wind 110
 

Are there any signs of the plane 'flying heavy' with the 10S setup?

RE: Sebart Wind 110
 

I am happy with how she handles ... no complains. If its too light the plane seems to hang when you go over the top in a maneuver. But the downline could do with some braking. At the moment I have about 10 flights on her max, am not comfortable yet unlike with my Ms Wind 50. I dare to fly the Ms Wind like I stole her but not the WindS yet. Maybe in a week or two. :)

RE: Sebart Wind 110
 

The Wind 110 EASILY handles 10S . . My friend uses Rhino 10S 4900mAh, and that's about 1.3kg of LiPo's (nearly 3 lbs). It is flying much nicer than on the 8S set-up IMO, and the extra power is nice.

I didn't particularly like the light, 'floaty' feel of it with 8S. It was still nice to fly, although if it was mine, I would have experimented with a more forward CG.

Cheers, JB

RE: Sebart Wind 110
 

Thanks guys. This makes me wonder if I should look for other planes. I noticed the floatiness, too, on a couple of videos including Seb's and Hezik's. This will be my competition plane so I want the best I can get in a 110 size.

RE: Sebart Wind 110
 

DEFINITELY NOT, Joe . .

The Wind 110E is an extremely capable and competitive plane. If I were going to compete with a 110 size plane . . THIS WOULD BE THE ONE !

You would be very happy with it . .

Cheers, JB

RE: Sebart Wind 110
 

Joe ... I have flown many ARFs, no 2M yet but I can say that Seb's planes are so nice. Suits me, I am not into twitchy planes and I know many who love those sort. I think you cannot go wrong with the WindS 110. My next one is the 30 sized SU29 ... something to take out when I feel lazy and wake up late!

JB ... I like my CG a little further back. :) Have you got your WindS yet?