Difference between the Piccolo Standard and the Fun Piccolo?
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I'm pretty sure the main differences between them are:
ECO Piccolo - includes ball bearings, carbon main and tail rotor shafts, and tail motor connectors.
Fun Piccolo - bushings, steel main and tail rotor shafts, and no tail motor connectors.
Here is a good place to start if your interested in the piccolo
ECO Piccolo - includes ball bearings, carbon main and tail rotor shafts, and tail motor connectors.
Fun Piccolo - bushings, steel main and tail rotor shafts, and no tail motor connectors.
Here is a good place to start if your interested in the piccolo
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which Micro Helicopter is better FunPiccolo or Century HummingBird(I'm a beginner and i want a RTF) feel free to make any other suggestions.
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Hi CenRacer,
The ECO piccolo has some more expensive parts that are lighter and reduce friction, all in the mane of getting longer flight times. The Fun Piccolo is less expensive. Still flies, but weighs just a bit more. This was relevant in the days before LiPo batteries. People struggling with 4 minute flight times on NiCad batteries were willing to pay more for bearings and carbon parts to fly longer. Each saved gram of wieght gave about 5 more seconds flight time. Luckily, we have LiPos and fly until we are tired of flying now. (well, much longer anyway)
As to your question of which of the 2 helis, Piccolo or HB, both are good if they are set up properly. I prefer the Piccolo for more than just the reason of 'I learned on it'. It has a well defined upgrade path, in that you have the ability to go full collective on the same frame. But almost all of the current crop of micros will be flyable.
You ask for suggestions - Here is mine. Do not get RTF. You will learn a lot about how the heli works by constructing it. You will know how to disassemble it for repairs. You will be able to ensure tha proper quality is used in the construction because you will be doing it.
I always make a pitch to noobs asking - Consider going seperates. Instead of the all-in-one mixing board, go with a seperate gyro and ESCs. All-in-one means that you throw all of it away when something goes wrong. Going with seperate componnents means that you only have to replace the one componnent that has gone bad. Also, when you go seperates, you can get a full Head Hold gyro. This is a great boon to learning to hover. The cost is more, but you should consider it.
The ECO piccolo has some more expensive parts that are lighter and reduce friction, all in the mane of getting longer flight times. The Fun Piccolo is less expensive. Still flies, but weighs just a bit more. This was relevant in the days before LiPo batteries. People struggling with 4 minute flight times on NiCad batteries were willing to pay more for bearings and carbon parts to fly longer. Each saved gram of wieght gave about 5 more seconds flight time. Luckily, we have LiPos and fly until we are tired of flying now. (well, much longer anyway)
As to your question of which of the 2 helis, Piccolo or HB, both are good if they are set up properly. I prefer the Piccolo for more than just the reason of 'I learned on it'. It has a well defined upgrade path, in that you have the ability to go full collective on the same frame. But almost all of the current crop of micros will be flyable.
You ask for suggestions - Here is mine. Do not get RTF. You will learn a lot about how the heli works by constructing it. You will know how to disassemble it for repairs. You will be able to ensure tha proper quality is used in the construction because you will be doing it.
I always make a pitch to noobs asking - Consider going seperates. Instead of the all-in-one mixing board, go with a seperate gyro and ESCs. All-in-one means that you throw all of it away when something goes wrong. Going with seperate componnents means that you only have to replace the one componnent that has gone bad. Also, when you go seperates, you can get a full Head Hold gyro. This is a great boon to learning to hover. The cost is more, but you should consider it.
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The thing about kits is Im afraid I wont be able to put it together because Im only 14.Is it as easy as a kit plane? Because I put together a plane completely from scratch.
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It is reasonable to put together. Not nearly as hard as the RC10 I put together years back. Harder than putting together a litestick plane kit. It was about 2 evenings of fretting over the instructions, trying to make sure that I put together everything right. In the end, I found that the actual construction was not critical. Adjusting the control links to get stable flight is a challange. But you will have that same challange with a RTF model.
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I have a hummingbird and and chose one becuase of the price difference. For what you pay for a hummingbird you pay double for a piccolo. The hummingbird ver2 costs around $70, but the eco piccolo costs I think $140, but I think the piccolo is suppose to be a little better in quality. I don't mind becuase I plan to replace it once it dies from all the abuse I put it throuh. I just hope my electronics don't die with it
And I agree with vince, go with separates.
And I agree with vince, go with separates.
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Tonight, I had the opportunity to fly a hummingbird for the first time. I was impressed. I did not get a lot of stick time, but I put it up in a hover and moved it around a bit. There were several things that needed tweaked, and we did not get a chance to get the gyro and mix set to my liking, but we got it trimmed faily well. The owner then took the sticks and made a respectable attempt at a hover. He was actually a whole lot smoother than I was, but like I said, we did not get the tail dialed in quite right.
I would need more stick time to form a full opinion on this bird, but the first impression was definitely favorable.
We had a good turnout at thesportsdome.com with 4 heli's (The fifth, another newbie, had a tail motor go ans is waitin for a replacement)
I am looking forward to seeing more helis there so I can compare them.
I would need more stick time to form a full opinion on this bird, but the first impression was definitely favorable.
We had a good turnout at thesportsdome.com with 4 heli's (The fifth, another newbie, had a tail motor go ans is waitin for a replacement)
I am looking forward to seeing more helis there so I can compare them.
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I wish there was a club like that here in LA that enthusiats could meet up at and fly. It's a little nerve racking hovering in my livingroom if ya know what I mean
. btw vince, what did you end up tweaking on your fellow's HB, so I can look at mine
. btw vince, what did you end up tweaking on your fellow's HB, so I can look at mine
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All of the ball links were stiff. He got the ready-to-fly combo, and nowhere did ti mention that the links need to be individually adjusted. You could have put two quarters on a paddle and the head would not tip. We got out the pliers and gently squeezed each socket (with the bal inside). Then test the fit. If still too tight, repeat, squeezing in a slightly different place on the socket.
This is easier to do with the head disassembled, and just working on individual joints. We were doing this on his assembled heli, so it was difficult to determine if any joint was loose enough becuase all of the rest of the joints were stiff too. But we got it better. He had set the throws on his servos way up to try to get any response out of the cyclic controls. I am sure that after he gets all of the joints adjusted, he will want to set the throws back.
We also put his heli up on my turntable so that we could test his gyro and mixing without worrying about flying it.
This is easier to do with the head disassembled, and just working on individual joints. We were doing this on his assembled heli, so it was difficult to determine if any joint was loose enough becuase all of the rest of the joints were stiff too. But we got it better. He had set the throws on his servos way up to try to get any response out of the cyclic controls. I am sure that after he gets all of the joints adjusted, he will want to set the throws back.
We also put his heli up on my turntable so that we could test his gyro and mixing without worrying about flying it.
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Hi, I'm new on these boards (over from Trucks/buggies). I got excited after the recent RCX show in Anaheim and bought the Picolo after seeing the factory guys flying inverted inside the building.
I have spent the last 2 days hovering over the "instructions" but, now my Picolo is up and running (notice not flying). I am still busy triming the gyro and radio but, so far it's been pretty fun. I have ordered the heading hold and am looking for the aluminum hub kit.
More later, thx for the info some of you have provided here for us newbies....
I have spent the last 2 days hovering over the "instructions" but, now my Picolo is up and running (notice not flying). I am still busy triming the gyro and radio but, so far it's been pretty fun. I have ordered the heading hold and am looking for the aluminum hub kit.
More later, thx for the info some of you have provided here for us newbies....
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Vince~
Okay cool, my kit was a RTF package as well, but didn't seem as stiff as you described with your buds. I just recently a little portion on my main blade chipped off from a crash, and now I think the heli vibrates a lot more then before. I think I might order a new set.
wishtoHB~
Welcome, and check out RADD'S SCHOOL OF ROTARY FLIGHT
Okay cool, my kit was a RTF package as well, but didn't seem as stiff as you described with your buds. I just recently a little portion on my main blade chipped off from a crash, and now I think the heli vibrates a lot more then before. I think I might order a new set.
wishtoHB~
Welcome, and check out RADD'S SCHOOL OF ROTARY FLIGHT




