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Old 05-03-2004 | 09:19 PM
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Can any one give me a good site that shows you how to learn how to fly them. Im getting mine in about three weeks.
Old 05-03-2004 | 09:39 PM
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RADD'S SCHOOL OF ROTARY FLIGHT?
What are you getting?
Old 05-03-2004 | 10:34 PM
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Thanks for the link, but it seems I cant open that link. Im getting the Hummingbird Elite CP.
Old 05-04-2004 | 05:22 AM
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The site appears to be down.
Do you have prior heli experience?
Old 05-04-2004 | 05:25 PM
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Hi Michael,
It is commonly accepted that Fixed Pitch helis are a more appropriate starting place.
The are more robust, less sensative to setup inaccuracies, easier to set up, easier to troubleshoot, and less expensive to repair/replace.
Now, much of my understanding about the relative values of CP and FP are from the Piccolo line, so this may not all be directly applicable to you. I don't know how much does translate directly to the CP HB. You may consider getting a FP kit to learn on and then getting out the CP kit when you are eady for more challanges.
Do you have any local pilots that fly micro helis?
Barring that, and until Radds site comes back up, reading here is likely your best bet.
Old 05-04-2004 | 08:19 PM
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Well I might be considering the FP version then. Can any one tell me how easily the FP can be converted to the FP version the? And VinceHerman thanks for all the help. I think there is a guy at the flying club that flies helicopters.
Old 05-04-2004 | 09:08 PM
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I was thinking would I be able to learn on it if I just set the pitch to a sertian setting and just leaving it there? (not toutching it during flying untill I know how to fly)
Old 05-04-2004 | 10:57 PM
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The problem is not so much with the complexity in flying a CP machine. As I understand it, a properly setup CP machine is easier to fly than a FP machine. But a CP machine is more difficult to get set up correctly. Not impossible, but more difficult. Proper setup makes a world of difference on a FP machine, and is more critical on a CP machine. So, until you have experience doing fine tuning of the setup on a FP machine, a CP machine is a rougher way to start.
Also, you are a beginner. You will crash. Don't take this as a statement of predicted failure. I have been flying for some time now and I still crash. That is not the real problem. The issue is that crashing a CP machine means that you are running those more complicated, more fragile, faster rotating CP parts into walls, furniture and the floor. $$$
Again, I am not sure how the Elite CP HB is configured, but a CP Piccolo has wooden blades that shatter each time you hit anything. I have bashed my plastic FP Piccolo blades into everything in the house. Inverted landings on my chain link fence. Steel post in the basement. Coffee table. Me. Chairs. Everything. I have broken a number of pieces, but the blades survived. Go price a set of replacement CP blades. (and multiply by ten)
Don't think that I am shooting down your brand choice or your chances of success. I just strongly believe that you will probably be better off spending a bit more cash now to get a FP kit, use all the electronics you had planned toput on the CP one for the FP one until you have learned to setup, troubleshoot (oh, yeah, and fly) THEN get the CP machine out and kick up the challange. This will almost certainly be cheaper than learning on the CP machine, and a lot less frustrating.
Good luck. Let us know how you do. And keep asking questions.
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So how would you have to set it up? (CP version) You can have a look at it here http://www.centuryheli.com/products/...rd/introcp.htm
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So how would you have to set it up? (CP version)
Up on a high shelf, out of reach until you master the skills that you will earn setting up and troubleshooting a FP machine.
From the link you posted - The Hummingbird CP (collective pitch) is for more experienced modelers who want to learn aerobatics and 3D style aggressive aerobatic maneuvers.

Let me help you. This is not you. Heck, it is not me either, and I have been flying my FP machine for a long time. I am not trying to be a smart *****, just trying to help you choose a path that is more likely to lead to success.

How much is a FP kitt? $85? How much is a set of replacement CP blades that you will break umpteen times trying to learn how to identify a linkage problem and crashing repeatedly? $16? After you have broken your fifth set of blades, you could have purchased a FP kit and done all of your hover learning on it. And your setup training. And your problem identification. And don't think that 5 sets of blades is unreasonable when starting with a CP machine and with zero heli experience. Crashed that the FP machine will survive with no damage at all can cost a fair amount of money with a CP machine.
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So how would you have to set it up? (CP version)
Up on a high shelf, out of reach until you master the skills that you will earn setting up and troubleshooting a FP machine.
From the link you posted - The Hummingbird CP (collective pitch) is for more experienced modelers who want to learn aerobatics and 3D style aggressive aerobatic maneuvers.

Let me help you. This is not you. Heck, it is not me either, and I have been flying my FP machine for a long time. I am not trying to be a smart *****, just trying to help you choose a path that is more likely to lead to success.

How much is a FP kitt? $85? How much is a set of replacement CP blades that you will break umpteen times trying to learn how to identify a linkage problem and crashing repeatedly? $16? After you have broken your fifth set of blades, you could have purchased a FP kit and done all of your hover learning on it. And your setup training. And your problem identification. And don't think that 5 sets of blades is unreasonable when starting with a CP machine and with zero heli experience. Crashed that the FP machine will survive with no damage at all can cost a fair amount of money with a CP machine.
Well Vince I take my hat off to you. You have convinced me I will be buying the FP version then (so I can upgrade it later on hahaha). Thanks gain man you most likely saved my ALLLLLOT of money. Thanks again.

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