l got a venom 3d heli for x-mas and just had some fun flying it around.For out of the box it flies pretty good ---on second battery l took it outside---cold out but no wind just a little breeze---so far l must say it is a pretty good heli for the price--stock motor has good power(brushed)and l would say it would stack up against the blade---more than l can say for my walkera 36(thing is giving my grief)just for fun l might try puttng my align 420 motor in the venom---just to see what would happen