What is a really easy to fly, fixed pitch electric helicopter, that is meant for outdoor use? [&:]

LMH Corona is pretty much at the top. It's the biggest, and so most stable. It's really the only one that can actually fly outdoors.

Hi Credence.

Heh, Don't forget I nearly always fly my clipped Walkera 4 FP outside when I can... It's pretty fast and I had a fantastic flight last night... In the fading light of twilight I got it up above the rooftops and flew laps around the neighbors house... Figure 8's and slow forward hover nose-in for the first time... It was fantastic.

Then I started swooping down amongst the cars making high speed (maybe 20 mph) passes through the parked cars before I cut it too close and went into one at full speed. Total damage: 1 damaged blade (Snapped). Replaced the blades, adjusted it and took off again. Got some soft Honeybee blades on it presently.

Flying a FP walkera 4 outside is great fun!... It was only light wind, but it was there. Flying in a breeze isn't quite a breeze, but it's not impossible. THe biggest issue is that the climb rate is difficult to control. And the lightness of the heli is an issue.

But those issues affect CP models almost as much.

Although the heavier a model is, the better it handles light wind.

Gusting is a problem also.

If you want fixed pitch and to fly outside, consider a chord clipped Walkera 4. They are pretty good. Otherwise, you might as well go for a large collective pitch model, eg T-Rex.

I think size defeats the purpose where FP models are concerned. Just an opinion.

David

No doubt the #4 is a good bird, but like you your self said, it's outdoor flying ability is limited to very calm days, or breezy days if you've got the balls for it . The corona will take wind quite a bit better due to it's much heavier mass and higher headspeed. It will also cost nearly as much as a decent collective pitch (i.e trex or X400) heli would, so that's something to consider too.

Fixed pitch and outdoor flight leaves the corona as the top (only?) contender. Otherwise, i'd wholy suggest the Walkera #4 as it's great value for your money aslong as you aren't set in outdoor flight except on very calm days.

The LMH Corona looks a little bigger and a little more expensive then anything I'd ever get! My buget (for helicopters) is around $80-200. I did like the [link=http://www.zhobby.com/wa10wadr4elr.html]Walkera 4 FP[/link]. That is the kind of helicopter I'm looking for! Please sent more ideas like that!

I just read something really weird. I was looking for helicopters when I read:

What!? I thought I needed to get rid of my Blade CP because it was more difficult then something that was fixed pitch? Is fixed pitch the easy one or collective pitch? If its collective pitch, then I've just wasted a lot of time. [:@]

Fixed pitch models are good for beginners because...

* They are harder to fly, so you learn quicker.
* You have to think ahead of the model, which builds good skills.
* They tend to have lower head speed so are less likely to damage things they hit.
* They tend to be stronger and take less damage in crashes.
* They are usually cheaper so you don't mind taking risks as much.

But the smaller the heli, the quicker you need to be to fly it... As a general rule.

I have a couple of Walkera 4's. Nice to fly. The collective pitch models have better collective response though. Especially vertically. And when you drop off head RPM to fly or descend, control suffers.

But I still fly my Walkera 4's outside at least once a week. More if it's light when I wake

David

OK. My main goal is to get a helicopter that I can pick up and start having fun with. It does seem that the advantages out weigh the disadvantages with fixed pitch. Tell me more about the Walkera 4 FP. I know its cheap, but I really want to know if it will "lawn mower" (That's what I call it when a helicopter tries to yaw a certain direction until the blades hit the ground and it crashes inverted. This and hard landings have been the cause of 95% of my crashes. Ever.). I want to know how difficult it is to do that to a fixed pitch helicopter (I had a CCPM Blade CP I could not fly without crashing before this). [&:]

If you can't fly the blade CP, you'll find the Walkera #4 to be impossible to fly. Yes, it's much more resistant to crashing, but it's also much harder to fly.


These things take practice. Either you need to stick with it, or get something REALLY easy to fly such as a counter-rotating helicopter (Blade CX, Esky Lama, XRB, etc.). At which point, you may get bored, because these helicopters practically fly them selves.

So I should probibly dust off my broken Blade CP. I tried selling it on this website (RC Universe) but my ad just expired. [:@]

So much for fixed pitch.

One more thing before I stop using this forum. What is a good, strong air frame with tail boom that I can get to fix up my Blade CP, making it much stronger then the stock, plastic one?

[link=http://helihobby.com/html/blade_helicopter.html]Whoops! I just found it! Never mind.[/link]

Hi J-Cube.

What Credence said was right... I had a Walkera 22A (The shaft-driven version of what you have) and I destroyed it by too many crashes.

THen I got a Walkera 4 which lasted long enough for me to self teach.

THe lower headspeed makes a big difference.

Anyway, then I discovered simulators (eg, FMS and PPJOY). And I stopped crashing so much.

David

I have [link=http://www.rcflightsim.com]Clear View[/link]. It really helps.