chuter1

I'll try Demo, it may be too large a file. And YES that is the terrific TX that comes with the Gulang. Thank you.

Yaquisports

I just noticed that the Shark 450 and Hone HF-006 appear to be identical other than the canopy.

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Yes, they are identical. We've been discussing that over on the Shark forum, I've just neglected to mention it here. My -003 is coming along nicely, I finally got all my electronics delivered to me!

Yaquisports

I am over in Shen Zhen, China for the rest of the summer. So I have access to just about every helicopter over here. I wasn't able to find the Copterx other than through the guy in Hong Kong. I think it might be made in Taiwan. I am still trying to decide on which one to go with. I am heading down to the place I got my Belt-CP last time I was here. The guy wants to build me one. It looks like the GL-450 I think from his website. Pretty easy to get trex parts over here also so I will probably go with something fully compatible instead of the Hone. I am not sure if the Hone guys will sell me parts directly unless I do follow through with a large order from them to sell.

cjsamples

I noticed your post about the gulang. Does it look like this battery would fit it?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWA:IT&ih=018

I am looking at getting this heli and I am having trouble finding more information about a second battery. Thanks, Chris.

chuter1

[sm=spinnyeyes.gif]Hello, yes that battery would fit and that size gives almost perfect balance! I have a Hone 003 and an 005 and like them very much, they are a very good value for the cost. Most Trex parts are compatible if you are used to building helis and can figure ways to make things work. You will get the best support from Steve thru his Classic Flying Machines website. Good Luck! P.S. Steve sells a battery that fits perfect also.

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Chuter, what's your take on the -005 versus the -003? Do they fly about the same? Do you prefer one over the other? Does your -003 have trouble with the elevator travel, due to the elevator servo arm hitting the AR bracket?

The -003 build continues to bother me, although now I'm almost done. My swash linkages were totally off, I had to adjust them myself. I expect to spool it up tonite.

chuter1

Hi Demo, I love them both.. The 003 was a compromise on the servo arm clearance with the a-r bracket, but like I said, I don't do 3d so it flys well.. The 005 is great again for the money. better frame, a-r-bracket relocated, no problems. Inquired with Steve about the 001 and 002 and would like to try those too. Not sure if he is going into those, he's still trying to get parts. Get 'em in the air, they are a bargain, I have yet to break a part that I couldn't find a Trex replacement or make something work. Good luck!

Demo Up

Thanks for the info on the comparison, I'm like you, the value play is right here!

chuter1

Thanks demoUp I'm getting a little goofy with these helis.[] I just ordered a Trex 450X combo for 140.00 with free shiping. There are some really good deals if you hunt them down. It was a hard decision between the Trex and the EXI from X-Heli. We're getting clones of clones and they are just as good as the name brands. I still think the Gulang was the best deal. I have ordered another WFly TX and RX to fly the Trex, and found an E-Bay store who is selling the 8 channel WFly Rx for 26.00 with your choice of crystal! One of my buddies, just dropped that radio in his CopterX, with no other set-up except to level the swash and it flies perfect with the CCPM programming. They are bulletproof. I will certainly check out Castle Rock, thanks.[sm=drowning.gif]

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I'm in the air with the -003! I think my gyro is not up to the task (Telebee/Zoom), but the bird is nice. I hovered it chest high in my basement, not bad for guessing at the swash linkage links and getting it trimmed good enough to fly on one battery. Man, talk about shaking, I had no idea what would happen, but I kept getting it lighter and lighter on the skids, trimming and trimming, and then she was up. The DX7 is one bad-a@# radio, that's all I've got to say. Programming it was no problem, and it looks like it has all the fine tuning that I'm going to want, I'm really glad I got it.

chuter1

I have the same gyro on my 003 and it works perfect. The linkage and the settings have to be correct. Hover the heli without the tail lock and make all your adjustments until it's close then use the head hold. You really should learn to fly the tail, it's great practice. That Telebee/Zoom is also an Align 500x and a half dozen other labels. Once you get it set right, it will be fine. I also fly in my basement, because of the weather here in Chicago this time of year. It can get a little hairy, but
if you can learn in that space, the rest is easy.

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Thanks, Chuter, that's the same thing that Xodarap1 just told me, he said his Telebee works fine on his Shark. Just got to keep adjusting. Would you mind measuring and telling me what tail servo arm length you're using right now, measured from hub center to ball center? I'd appreciate it much. Not sure if mine's too long or too short, I'm right at 12mm, I think. thnx much.

chuter1

Troy , the servo arm isn't as important as the servo location on the boom. I will measure mine tomorrow and let you know. I am using one of the JR digital servos on the tail and using the outermost hole, I will measure that too. That's all I had to get right, as long as your servo arm and slider arm are at right angles to the boom. It's a lot of trial and error.

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Hone flies nice, flew two packs outside on Wednesday night. Tonite I'm going to work on the tail stickiness that I mentioned a while back, I think that is causing my tail to not respond quickly enough to the gyro/servo commands, causing the small rotations I'm seeing when I make throttle changes. Rotates a little left when I add throttle, rotates right when I reduce throttle. I'm going to loosen the screws first, like Choppersrule said do, see if that frees it up. Then I'll apply some engine grease to the tail shaft and slider, my buddy says it's "slicker than snot".

heli46

My Feedback: (51)

what happen did you guy sale your helicopter
Hone 450
heli46
let me know if here

chuter1

Not sure about your question. I have two Hone's , an 003 and 005 and love them both.

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I still have my Hone, and I'm really loving it. Got the gyro working fine, tail wasn't sticky after all. Just trying to get more batteries. Got the thing so it'll hover hands off for a few seconds at a time, I think she's flying nice.

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One note, the stock 14 tooth pinion creates way too much headspeed, I''m running a Danlions KA-400H, and it was screaming at 70% throttle. I believe that was also causing my twitchy tail. Anyway, I''m going to put on the 11T Align pinion, and get the headspeed down to a better RPM, so I can raise my hover throttle setting up from its current 50%.

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Just letting everyone know that there is another thread discussing these helis, here it is:

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_73...tm.htm#7369714

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Parts for Hones and Shark 450's are now available from a US source! Yay! Steve Harbin at www.classicflyingmachines.com has parts. Just to name a few, he has feathering shafts, main shafts, complete shaft sets, gears and gear sets, the works. All in all, he currently has 22 different parts.

Also, Delfin Santos in Canada carries Shark 450 parts, both on his ebay store under "veejayhobbies", as well as on his website at www.snhobbies.com. Since Shark 450's and Hones are the same thing, all these parts are exactly the same as Hone parts (at least all of the important rotating stuff). You don't have to "make them work" like you do with a lot of other parts from other helis.

So that is two sources of parts now for Sharks and Hones!

tintmaster

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I just had to get on and put my 2 cents in. Let me say that I am very impressed with this helicopter! I got the version 002 with the red canopy. Very beautiful bird. I added a 401 gyri/ 9257 servo combo, 3 hitec hs-65hb servos on the cyclis, an align 430l motor and align 35 amp esc, ( which I am upgrading to a scorpion -6 brushless motor and scorpion 55 amp esc, HEHEHE!!!), and an outrage 2500 lipo battery. This thing is rock solid! I highly recommend it. Thanks for letting ne speak about it.

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Good deal, Tint. I love mine as well. Man, you've got some real nice stuff attached to yours! Mine's all cheap stuff, but works fine for me. I'd love to have a 401/9257 combo, or a Logictech 2100, maybe I'll get one for Christmas or something. I did my first loops and rolls recently, heli was fine. Still no crashes or incidents, a few near misses coming out of crazy maneuvers, but it just keeps fighting to stay in the air, and lends itself to good saves. I just love flying it.

heli46

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i have not seen much said on here. i sold my hone 3 to buddy
he give it back need to be repair.
so are you guys flying him are not,
what happen same thing i have see you have to e-mail for parts
i told him add parts to helicopter on his site get some video demo out.
i will be talking to co. make this helicopter soon. i did talk to one Owen of co few mo ago
i hoping they get video out soon on bulid. i have offer do at.
and one time did do full build on this hone 3. but Th it way. i told Owen at need make some up date on hone 3
. but if it to late will they lose
thanks
heliman3
have fun flying be safe

chuter1

HELLO 46, I AM FLYING MY HONE 3 AND 5 REGULARLY WITH 2100T. NO PROBLEM WITH PARTS, I HAVE BEEN ABLE TO USE TREX 450 REPLACEMENTS FOR EVERYTHING SO FAR. FOR THE MONEY, THEY ARE GREAT, WOULD STILL LIKE TO GET AN 002!.