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papajeff 06-08-2010 08:50 PM

RC LANDER MIG-17 (PC VERSION II)
 
RC Lander has revised, modifiedand upgraded it's recently introduced 90mm Mig-17. My Mig came in
the "Russian Red" color scheme (red over light blue) andis the new PC (Polycarbonate covered version)
complete with the new Landerelectric retracts and gear door system option, bothfactoryinstalled. Also
included was the Lander 90mm 8S compatable EDF unit, flap system, servos, servo extensions, 100Amp
OPTO ESC, 5Amp UBEC,Lander Afterburner Lighting system, epoxy, pilot andall necessary hardware. I
assume that this is the PREMIUM set-up with all the options.


http://www.airshowrc.com/mig-17-Promo.200.jpghttp://www.airshowrc.com/mig-17-silver.200.jpghttp://www.airshowrc.com/mig-17-Camo-Color.200.jpg

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papajeff 06-09-2010 02:46 PM

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<span style="font-size: x-large"> "RUSSIAN RED" PC MIG - 17

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Extreme_RC 06-09-2010 06:36 PM

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Do the wings stay on now?? http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/js/f...sn/biggrin.gif

papajeff 06-09-2010 09:01 PM

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ORIGINAL: Extreme_RC

Do the wings stay on now?? http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/js/f...sn/biggrin.gif
I would think that if this was a past issue, Tim Wan has taken the proper steps to correct the
situation.We will certainly find out when it comes time for the Maiden flight.

papajeff 06-10-2010 12:58 PM

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Before we get on with the build, there seems to be some confusion with respect to the correct
information regarding the Mig-17, so I asked Tim Wan for the actual facts and here they are.

1. The <u>EPO Mig-17</u> is available in the following color schemes; Silver, Camo, Red/Black,
Red/Blue and the new China Demo Team.

2. The <u>PC covered Mig-17</u> is available in the same color schemes as the EPO version above.

3. The EPO Mig-17 is the original version, so let's call it Version I.

4. The PC (polycarbonate) covered Mig-17 should be called Version II. This first PC covered
version is stronger,has a smoother exterior skin, is slightly heavierand has better flying
performance than the EPO Version I.

5. Tim has currently been working on the Version III which will have full ducting, electric retracts
with new 45 degree rotating struts and a working air-brake system. If the weather in China
cooperates, Tim plans to test fly Version III in the next few days and then post the video on
Youtube.

papajeff 06-10-2010 08:16 PM

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The Mig arrived from China in a strong double packed carton and the actual model box was
divided into custom sections which held the individual parts covered with white sheet foam
and packed in individual plastic bags. The bags were all taped in place to avoid any movement
during shipping.

papajeff 06-10-2010 08:28 PM

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The box has a fewphotos,more ofa label, with some basic specksand includesa list of
components which I thought was a good idea, as there are many options which can be
chosen for each kit.

papajeff 06-10-2010 08:45 PM

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My Mig came with most of the available options, outlined in post #1 and I plan to add a Spektrum
AR 7000 receiver and use my DX-7.

papajeff 06-10-2010 09:00 PM

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The actual parts count is low and made up of the following; upper fuselage, four part lower
fuselage, horizontal stabilizer (elevator), verticle stabilizer (rudder), canopy,intake nose cone
and wing tanks.

papajeff 06-11-2010 12:26 PM

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I thought to start the build by connecting the two wing halves. Since the electric retracts are already
factory installed, it made sense toplace the aileron &amp; flap servos into their pockets first. There was
one evident problem with the pockets as they placed the control rods way off from the expected 90
degrees. So, I slightly changed the servo position within the pocket which required a few cuts in the
PC skin and the removal of a little foam. The photos are better than words, to show what was done.
It may not look like much of a difference, but 2" toward a 90 degree control rod position was gained.</p>

papajeff 06-16-2010 08:23 PM

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Once the new servo positions were marked, a dremel tool with a small burr bit cut through the PC
skin like butter. Then a regularexacto knife was used to cut the foam out.

papajeff 06-17-2010 01:30 PM

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The servos are now going to provide better control to the flaps and ailerons, since the geometry
of the control rodswill bemuch better. I just used hot melt glue to hold the servos in the pockets
and then just pushed the servo wires into a slot I cutin the foamchannel. It makes for a better
install than having the wires just laying in the channel.</p>

ismen 06-18-2010 12:29 AM

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What is the biggest Ducted fan Jet I can purchase and where any idea??

JeffH 06-18-2010 08:28 AM

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ORIGINAL: ismen

What is the biggest Ducted fan Jet I can purchase and where any idea??
What is the largest price tag you can afford? I have seen ducted fans measure in at 10+ feet in wingspans. Size is directly proportional to your budget.

papajeff 06-18-2010 09:05 AM

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ORIGINAL: ismen

What is the biggest Ducted fan Jet I can purchase and where any idea??

JeffH is correct as you can go to http://www.bvmjets.com/if money is no object or
http://www.airshowrc.com/for a selection of more moderately priced EDF's.

papajeff 06-18-2010 03:06 PM

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Let me digress for a moment in this Mig-17 build, to share with you some photos regarding the process
of convertinga foam airplaneinto aLander PC covered EDF. These photos weretaken by Richard, from
AirShow R/C, when he was in China at the manufacturing plants. I hope that it gives you a slightly
different perspective on the Lander PC covering.

papajeff 06-19-2010 06:55 AM

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The added strength and durability of the Lander PC coveringis evident when you realize that
it's the same as the covering on a bicycle helmet. The PC Panther, below,is a custom paint
job which shows how great the PC covering looks when painted.

papajeff 07-05-2010 07:14 PM

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Starting with the flap servo controls first, it was noticed that the flap was basically stuck in the flap
pocket and could not move at the hinge line in order to be deployed. It looks like the thickness of
thePC covering was not accounted for in the design development. So, after a lot of figuring, which
really taxes my old brain, a small triangle of PC covering was removed from the wing atboththe
right and left corners of the hinge line. A new sharp #11 exacto blade was used and again, the
photos should be most helpful.

papajeff 07-05-2010 07:31 PM

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I was pleased that the flap was not pre-hinged, as it made this process much easier with the flap
removed. The flap was placed in position and the hinges glued in with foam safe ZAP CA.

papajeff 07-05-2010 07:40 PM

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The first attempt at the control rod set up just did not allow for proper flap movement. So, a swivel ball
was used and provided the proper flap deployment. Notice that the flap control horn was attached
after the control rod was placed, so as to get the best allignment with the action of the servo horn.
In addition, the photos show that the control rod is much closer to the 90 degree configuration now
that the servo pocketshave beenre-alligned.

tIANci 07-07-2010 09:22 AM

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Papajeff ... she looks PURTEEEEEEE!!! Oh man ...

papajeff 07-07-2010 12:45 PM

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tIANci,

How are you? It's been a long time and it's nice to hear from you. Have you gotten into any
EDF's yet?

papajeff 10-18-2010 01:12 PM

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After a slight delay due to the flying season, the tail of the Mig-17 was next. The first step is to remove
the little "plug" that was part of the foam mold, so that the horizontal tail can be fit into the slot of the
vertical tail. First remove the rudder and trial fit the horizontal tail into the slot to make sure that it
lines up properly. Make any necessary adjustments and then epoxy in place. I used a thin layer of
ZAP 5 minute epoxy and wipped up any excess before it became tacky.

papajeff 02-01-2011 08:46 AM

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OK, so it's been a few months since any build posts, but that will change now that I have healed up
from my broken left hand. Long story we will leave for some other time. So, where were we? Oh,
yeah, the rudder! The rudder was hinged with your normal CA hinges. I wrapped the servo in
masking tape and then hot glued it into the pocket of the vertical tail. And the same for the elevator
servos.

Airframe Inventer 02-01-2011 02:28 PM

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