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RC LANDER MIG-17 (PC VERSION II)
RC Lander has revised, modifiedand upgraded it's recently introduced 90mm Mig-17. My Mig came in
the "Russian Red" color scheme (red over light blue) andis the new PC (Polycarbonate covered version) complete with the new Landerelectric retracts and gear door system option, bothfactoryinstalled. Also included was the Lander 90mm 8S compatable EDF unit, flap system, servos, servo extensions, 100Amp OPTO ESC, 5Amp UBEC,Lander Afterburner Lighting system, epoxy, pilot andall necessary hardware. I assume that this is the PREMIUM set-up with all the options. http://www.airshowrc.com/mig-17-Promo.200.jpghttp://www.airshowrc.com/mig-17-silver.200.jpghttp://www.airshowrc.com/mig-17-Camo-Color.200.jpg http://static.rcgroups.com/forums/at...g?d=1268228967 |
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<span style="font-size: x-large"> "RUSSIAN RED" PC MIG - 17
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Do the wings stay on now?? http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/js/f...sn/biggrin.gif
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ORIGINAL: Extreme_RC Do the wings stay on now?? http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/js/f...sn/biggrin.gif situation.We will certainly find out when it comes time for the Maiden flight. |
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Before we get on with the build, there seems to be some confusion with respect to the correct
information regarding the Mig-17, so I asked Tim Wan for the actual facts and here they are. 1. The <u>EPO Mig-17</u> is available in the following color schemes; Silver, Camo, Red/Black, Red/Blue and the new China Demo Team. 2. The <u>PC covered Mig-17</u> is available in the same color schemes as the EPO version above. 3. The EPO Mig-17 is the original version, so let's call it Version I. 4. The PC (polycarbonate) covered Mig-17 should be called Version II. This first PC covered version is stronger,has a smoother exterior skin, is slightly heavierand has better flying performance than the EPO Version I. 5. Tim has currently been working on the Version III which will have full ducting, electric retracts with new 45 degree rotating struts and a working air-brake system. If the weather in China cooperates, Tim plans to test fly Version III in the next few days and then post the video on Youtube. |
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The Mig arrived from China in a strong double packed carton and the actual model box was
divided into custom sections which held the individual parts covered with white sheet foam and packed in individual plastic bags. The bags were all taped in place to avoid any movement during shipping. |
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The box has a fewphotos,more ofa label, with some basic specksand includesa list of
components which I thought was a good idea, as there are many options which can be chosen for each kit. |
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My Mig came with most of the available options, outlined in post #1 and I plan to add a Spektrum
AR 7000 receiver and use my DX-7. |
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The actual parts count is low and made up of the following; upper fuselage, four part lower
fuselage, horizontal stabilizer (elevator), verticle stabilizer (rudder), canopy,intake nose cone and wing tanks. |
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I thought to start the build by connecting the two wing halves. Since the electric retracts are already factory installed, it made sense toplace the aileron & flap servos into their pockets first. There was one evident problem with the pockets as they placed the control rods way off from the expected 90 degrees. So, I slightly changed the servo position within the pocket which required a few cuts in the PC skin and the removal of a little foam. The photos are better than words, to show what was done. It may not look like much of a difference, but 2" toward a 90 degree control rod position was gained.</p> |
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Once the new servo positions were marked, a dremel tool with a small burr bit cut through the PC
skin like butter. Then a regularexacto knife was used to cut the foam out. |
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The servos are now going to provide better control to the flaps and ailerons, since the geometry of the control rodswill bemuch better. I just used hot melt glue to hold the servos in the pockets and then just pushed the servo wires into a slot I cutin the foamchannel. It makes for a better install than having the wires just laying in the channel.</p> |
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What is the biggest Ducted fan Jet I can purchase and where any idea??
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ORIGINAL: ismen What is the biggest Ducted fan Jet I can purchase and where any idea?? |
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ORIGINAL: ismen What is the biggest Ducted fan Jet I can purchase and where any idea?? JeffH is correct as you can go to http://www.bvmjets.com/if money is no object or http://www.airshowrc.com/for a selection of more moderately priced EDF's. |
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Let me digress for a moment in this Mig-17 build, to share with you some photos regarding the process
of convertinga foam airplaneinto aLander PC covered EDF. These photos weretaken by Richard, from AirShow R/C, when he was in China at the manufacturing plants. I hope that it gives you a slightly different perspective on the Lander PC covering. |
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The added strength and durability of the Lander PC coveringis evident when you realize that
it's the same as the covering on a bicycle helmet. The PC Panther, below,is a custom paint job which shows how great the PC covering looks when painted. |
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Starting with the flap servo controls first, it was noticed that the flap was basically stuck in the flap
pocket and could not move at the hinge line in order to be deployed. It looks like the thickness of thePC covering was not accounted for in the design development. So, after a lot of figuring, which really taxes my old brain, a small triangle of PC covering was removed from the wing atboththe right and left corners of the hinge line. A new sharp #11 exacto blade was used and again, the photos should be most helpful. |
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I was pleased that the flap was not pre-hinged, as it made this process much easier with the flap
removed. The flap was placed in position and the hinges glued in with foam safe ZAP CA. |
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The first attempt at the control rod set up just did not allow for proper flap movement. So, a swivel ball
was used and provided the proper flap deployment. Notice that the flap control horn was attached after the control rod was placed, so as to get the best allignment with the action of the servo horn. In addition, the photos show that the control rod is much closer to the 90 degree configuration now that the servo pocketshave beenre-alligned. |
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Papajeff ... she looks PURTEEEEEEE!!! Oh man ...
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tIANci,
How are you? It's been a long time and it's nice to hear from you. Have you gotten into any EDF's yet? |
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After a slight delay due to the flying season, the tail of the Mig-17 was next. The first step is to remove
the little "plug" that was part of the foam mold, so that the horizontal tail can be fit into the slot of the vertical tail. First remove the rudder and trial fit the horizontal tail into the slot to make sure that it lines up properly. Make any necessary adjustments and then epoxy in place. I used a thin layer of ZAP 5 minute epoxy and wipped up any excess before it became tacky. |
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OK, so it's been a few months since any build posts, but that will change now that I have healed up
from my broken left hand. Long story we will leave for some other time. So, where were we? Oh, yeah, the rudder! The rudder was hinged with your normal CA hinges. I wrapped the servo in masking tape and then hot glued it into the pocket of the vertical tail. And the same for the elevator servos. |
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