I just wanted to say I have been into park flyers for about 3 months now and I have bought 3 different electric flyers that were said to be good planes for first timers....

the planes I tried may be great for a lot of people to begin with but I didnt have any luck and I was getting ready to give up till I got intrested in building my own..

I got some plans off the net got the materials and built the plane and it is the best flyer out of all the ones I have tried...

If your intrested in trying your hand and a scratch build look at the foamies section fun with flat foam...