Slo V or Slow Stick, I can't decide, I have the electronics... (all but a battery) to make a stick fly, but then again, the Slo V is RTF out of the box, i am planning on flying in our backyard (kindof big), on our culdisac, and at an indoor flying meet, I can't decide between the two, anyone got suggestions, my LHS definately carries stuff for the V as for the stick, I am not shure, I am TOTALLY new to flying, I have tried making foamies (but battery weights....) have kept me firmly planted on the ground[]

Neither is best. Each has its value. Both fly well.

Slo-V is RTF / slow stick you have to build
Slo-V comes with everything / Slow stick you have to figure out the parts.

Slow stick, because you have to build it and because you have to pull together the radio sysetm, is also more flexible as far as what you use and what you can change. But is its also more expensive to get it into the air.

Each has its value. Depends on what you want.

just because a plane is a kit dosen't mean that it will be more expensive than a RTF plane

You are right, but, in general they can put these RTFs together with low cost parts cheaper than what you can pull together yourself. Now you could argue that what you collect wil be better quality but it will typically also cost more. I have tried to package up planes cheaper than good quality RTFs, like the parkzone or hobbyzone planes, and it is hard to do.

in my mind there is no such thing as a quality RTF. there are quality ARF's. i can only think of a few quality RTF and they are the electra star and the RTF nextstars. witch cost any where from 350 dollars to over 400 dollars, they are the nicest RTF but there if there is any thing with more quality it is probably from graupner or some other european country.

There is also the RR (receiver ready), you only have to put the receiver. An example of very high quality of this, is the Easy Glider Electric RR, my friend Moris Beracha teach me to fly in this plane, simply wonderfull.

The purpose of RTFs is not to Xzude your idea of quality, but introduce beginners to flying. Some model enthusiasts enjoy building ARFs, modifying and tinkering as much as flying; others don't have the time or interest in ARF building projects; and others are addicted with every aspect of the hobby.

The GWS Slow Stick ARF at $35 offers no more quality than the Slo-V airframe with its mainwing. The name of the game for many is having FUN ASAP with an inexpensive total package RTF flyer more than spending the time and money on detail workmanship and a Spectrum or Futuba TX. Combat SPADs aren't the most beautiful quality product, but they serve a purpose for many that provides hours of flying enjoyment for a lot less money than flying a $350 aerobatic plane that Xzudes quality. A beginner only needs so much 'quality' to enjoy this hobby.

Every newbie will eventually find their area of interest and there are a lot of choices to attract your money before you discover your calling/limitations. One way is to begin with the advantages offered by RTFs. For someone to say that the RTF HobbyZone SuperCub is not a 'quality' product for the money is out of touch with reality. Some flyers have more fun with an inexpensive RTF than other flyers have with their 'quality ARF,' but to them experiencing the satisfaction of building an ARF that Xzudes quality is more to their interest/fun in the hobby than repairing/rebuilding a SPAD every week for the next TopGun battle.

One could argue that some lazer cut ARF airframes Xzude less quality/durability than some HobbyZone and ParkZone airframes or other RTF foamies depending on their use/abuse. Why should a beginner with limited resources spend the extra money on a 'quality' ARF Mountain Models lazer cut kit and the other expensive items to maintain that level of quality when they don't offer any significant advantage in learning enjoyment than a beginner can experience learning to fly with a RTF HobbyZone SuperCub or RTF ParkZone Slo-V.