ASP 1.2 FS ignition conversion
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Would it make sense to use ignition on a methanol engine?
Is the methanol/air mixture ignitable by a spark, or only by compression/heat ?
I'd like to build an ignition system to use on my ASP 1.20 FS, and possibly lowering compression and running it on gas instead.
However one step at a time would be easier, so can this be done ?
(perhaps it's hard to lower the compression if the camshaft pushrods aren't long enough...)
/Anders
Is the methanol/air mixture ignitable by a spark, or only by compression/heat ?
I'd like to build an ignition system to use on my ASP 1.20 FS, and possibly lowering compression and running it on gas instead.
However one step at a time would be easier, so can this be done ?
(perhaps it's hard to lower the compression if the camshaft pushrods aren't long enough...)
/Anders
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This has been done to run gas in them but they had less power, weighed more, and cost more. Also on gas, you have to run a 16:1 oil mix insted of the 32 or 50 to one that you do on a chainsaw engine. There wouldn't be any advantage to still run glow fuel in a ignition engine.
As a result, a lot of people have tried it (and BTW, you do not have to lower the compression) but the practice has not caught on so far.
You can run a C-H or RC ignition on one with little trouble. You just let the plug fire every revolution. It doesn't hurt anything. It will cost close to $150 to do the conversion with new parts.
Enjoy,
Jim
As a result, a lot of people have tried it (and BTW, you do not have to lower the compression) but the practice has not caught on so far.
You can run a C-H or RC ignition on one with little trouble. You just let the plug fire every revolution. It doesn't hurt anything. It will cost close to $150 to do the conversion with new parts.
Enjoy,
Jim
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Anders,
I have been running a C&H ignition on my Saito 300 Twin for some time and love it! Lower idle, easy start, higher RPM, better transition ....... what's not to like. It is a standard twin unit and from talking to the folks at C&H, it has positive effects on four stroke engines from about 120 size and up! The bigger the engine gets, the harder it is to get consistent ignition with a glow plug! If you have ever flown a twin you know that sometimes the engines just don't run the same. It is often becauxe one plug runs a little colder than the other at differnt stages of ignition. Spark is simply more consistent and hotter. I don't think I have ever flipped this engine more than once and not had it crank at idle speed. I highly recomend it if you don't mind laying out the cash!
Convert to gas? They are not built the same. Buy a gas engine! Want more economical fuel? Spark will let you run on little or no nitro, with decent power!
Perry
I have been running a C&H ignition on my Saito 300 Twin for some time and love it! Lower idle, easy start, higher RPM, better transition ....... what's not to like. It is a standard twin unit and from talking to the folks at C&H, it has positive effects on four stroke engines from about 120 size and up! The bigger the engine gets, the harder it is to get consistent ignition with a glow plug! If you have ever flown a twin you know that sometimes the engines just don't run the same. It is often becauxe one plug runs a little colder than the other at differnt stages of ignition. Spark is simply more consistent and hotter. I don't think I have ever flipped this engine more than once and not had it crank at idle speed. I highly recomend it if you don't mind laying out the cash!
Convert to gas? They are not built the same. Buy a gas engine! Want more economical fuel? Spark will let you run on little or no nitro, with decent power!
Perry
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Ok, going to gas sounds like more trouble than it's worth. It's the 15% nitro that make it expensive anyway.
I've had lots of grief trying to make the engine run reliably at a low idle... lots of nitro, on board glow, etc...
If a spark would also make starting easier, that sounds like the way to go.
Since I'm going to build the ignition myself, I only need the spark plug. Where can I find one that fits the same thread as my normal glow plugs ?
I've had lots of grief trying to make the engine run reliably at a low idle... lots of nitro, on board glow, etc...
If a spark would also make starting easier, that sounds like the way to go.
Since I'm going to build the ignition myself, I only need the spark plug. Where can I find one that fits the same thread as my normal glow plugs ?
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From: tijuanaBaja California, MEXICO
Hey AndersE! read the "gas fuel with glo plug, no ignition" tread you will find some data about running gasoline with a glo plug, but in your case being that is a glow plug engine the only changes requiered would probably be more oil content for lubication of the con rod, See the results that " wvarn1957" obtained on his O.S. 60 FP engine you will probably wet some ideas that will help you convert into gasoline



