Mini-Telemaster conversion
 

Just got mine-- Mini Telemaster today WOW 3 days FedX This is an outanding ARF some of the best hardware I have seen in an ARF. thinking of moving
the firewall BACK about an inch then putting in the mount for the MVVS 09 or OS 10 conversion or AS12 conversion think its needed for balance and getting engine in right place Thoughts??? martin

Just did a mock up with the firewall as is, it puts the rear of prop washer 1 3/4 inch forward of the front of the Fus.
its gotta go back

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Martin, I broke the OS LA .10 in today, posted it in the Glow Forum. I tried to get Bob to order the head, no answer.

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Hobbsy he was doing other stuff to day, personal biz. I did hack out the original fire wall, new one 1/8 ply cut some top and bottom sheeting for access and clearance New one 1 3/4" back from original

this is a well built bird will use a little dubro mount 4/40 caps and blind nuts to secure it/ will use the OS10 from the demised cub 2oz tank at least 15 minutes. THe OS 10 looks good diesel 9x3,4,5 will give 8500 to 10000 range my guess martin
Just found an other TT/OS 10 head what to do??? just ordered a TT GP 10 have a few more planes including the replacmernt spare for the cub

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Martin, the little Tele came today, Bob has the head on the way, I have the aileron wing joined. I'm only going to have to move the firewall back about 3/4 inch. I just ordered the engine mount, a Dave Brown .9 to .11 and another micro servo. Hard to believe I don't have a suitable mount in my engine mount box.

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Hobbsy How far out past the front will the rear of the prop be???
I found an other OS10 davis head just ordered a TTGP10 (maybe already said this?? 1/2 forum??_
looks like the squadron of mini teles conversions is under way I still have an other VMAR cub to replace the first one hence need an other 10
maybe should name it SPLAT ll martin

They should really do a minor mod on the mini tele very simple ship with the electric mount and a blank one(not installed ) being its laser cut
just have a series of those little square holes 2 per side spaced 1/2 inch apart the original spacing plus 2 more pairs in back of it
then simple matter of gluing in your choice in the right location

When you get Bobs head go a 9" prop drop the revs to 10000

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I'll get a better read on it tomorrow. I haven't touched the fuse other than to look at it. The LA .10 turned a MA 8x4 at 12,500 plus on 10% fuel with 18% 80/20 lube. It did good.

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The LA .10 Conversion head came today, its a gem, more later.

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That looks nice, a much cleaner look compared to old style top finned one, well more "traditional diesel look"or maybe modern
diesel?? martin ( it only took him 30 years or so had to get that dig in)

Now you could have bought a nice brushless motor $60 decent ESC $50 3 lith poly batteries maybe $40 each a fancy charger
maybe $125 so for $350 you could have gone electric sort of like the joy of the Master card commerical
and you cheaped out for about 100 bucks hmmmmmmmmm

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dup post see above martin

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Martin, the engine mount came today for the .10 so I can accurately locate the firewall now.

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Bet you will be about 1 and a half inchs back martin\ hope to mine installed tomorrow

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I may get to work on it tomorrow PM.

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How about a shot of the aircraft with the engine installed gentlemen?

I see a knurled thumbwheel under spring tension is used for compression adjustment on this conversion (and I presume other small conversion heads from Bob). Nice touch ... simple and effective. My Irvine.40 DDD head arrived today.

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Will do.

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The rest is easy just assembly may swap out to the TT GP10 same mount hayes 2 oz martin
Looks like my order for the GP10TT vanished ( no my MC was not charged so have to re-order bummer)

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Hey guys, my day did not turn out like I planned, I got to be home a total of 45 minutes this PM, Will try again tomorrow.

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Do you see a trim mistake by the factory? I made 3/16ths hard balsa side reinforcing plates that precisely locate the new firewall, they are held in place by Hobby Lobby's Superphatic. The firewall, 3/16 inch, is 30 minute epoxied on the sides, top and bottom. The engine mount is just barely long enough for the .10. You can see the 5 oz Harry Higley Ultra Hub holding the firewall in place. I used very precise measurements and cuts so the original down and right thrust would be be accurate.

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After trying to order aTT10 from thunder tiger 4U and getting a confirmation twice the order vanished a couple of e mails later to Vince who was very responsive via e mail he sent me a fax number to send the confirmation I was not charged just a glitch
in his on line ordering process. I just went down to Bobs hobby center in orlando and picked up an OS10LA
on putting on a prop with no glow plug in the head noticed no pinch smooth as silk so put on the Davis head put on a XOAR 8x6
got a good tight hand hold on the engine gave it a few drops of Davis plane fuel in the carb after about 8 or 10 flips started right up and burned off the prime then repeated off it went in 6 flips. This one will never see glow fuel its going in the VMAR cub #2
remember # 1 is no more.The mini tele will be finished first . will see if I can beat Hobbsy to the punch this time martin
pix taken 12/30/ should have been on a later post

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OK Deezel Gents, I'm this far along now, please don't notice that I put the horizontal stab on upside down. I have that exact covering so it's no biggy. I also have to fix the factory mistake anyway.

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Hobbsy looks super the "side saddle" engine setup very clean Looks like you beat me to in progress
by the way went to Ace hardware today and picked up some weed eater gas line this stuff is really nice crystal clear and very flexible about the same as neoprene and of course you can see thu it it will be no issue in small tank with the clunk taking it to the bottom big improvement over the stiff amber stuff martin

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The curved fuse bottom below the engine is very soft wood, I took it out and will make a new removable bottom and build around the exhaust extension. I still have to paint the inside of the engine and fuel tank compartment with 50/50 epoxy and alcohol.

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The 7/16th inch exhaust extension worked out perfectly. Do you think the opening will allow enough airflow behind the cylinder, I'm going to clean the hole up a little.

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Wide open in the front and bottom I cannot see any cooling issues. I threw most of the plane on the scale engine, wing tail fus, battery but no servos or receiver it should come in under 20 oz at the most dry
Just noticed you said you are going to fill in under the engine If you do just open up a little more around the cylinder. Mine is going to be in the breeze the hatch will be behind the fire wall martin > If you will sheet the top
I would leave the bottom open martin


decided to go with the JR micro 35 servos for rudder and elevator 30z torque since have them and I have some sub micros I can use for throttle

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Usually you need 2-3 times the inlet area for good flow. In this case you inlet is huge so most of the air will spill over the front. it's hard to say if it will be enough to cool the engine adequately. About the only thing you can do is try.

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I think it will be fine, the entire head and about two cooling fins will be out in the breeze.

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Chances are it will be fine with the head out like that. You won't find out until you fly it.

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OK guys Merry Christmas, Christmas eve spent wrapping the last few gifts, then FINISHED the mini tele the OS 10LA is installed per the mock up , made both wings non aileron and aileron the aileron has a 30oz servo 22 oz on rudder and elevator and a little sub micro
12 oz for throttle, there was an issue slop, in the rudder and elevator this was caused by bowing of the tubes, going thru the bottom for access secured then to a former and end of issue, 3 oz hayes tank also added 1/8 square bass wood along to sides of fus at top really
no flex there now 3 oz hayes tank perfect fit also went to 2 1/2 lt wt wheels. clevis to rudder and elevator sullivan 2 mm got rid the the plastic ones, 1/8 triangle stock rounded edges where rudder glued to stab no flex here, out of time so got to sign off and get on with Christmas, will post pix later ,yes berg mini 4 channel rec, battery under servo tray balance perfect no weights needed martin

again a great Christmas to all

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Still in Utah, it snowed a bunch all afternoon and evening, my dauther in law, my wife and several other ladies prepared dinner for 44 people. Quite a house full. Merry Christmas to all, its about 5 degrees here at the base of the Wasatch mountain.

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Hobbsy sounds like quite a family Christmas gathering ,was 75 degrees here today glad you and your family having a great one, the Mini tele flys this weekend weather permiting martin

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Final touchs on the mini tele decided ti run the exhaust all the way to the rear 5/16 thin wall Al. tubing (tip) by mounting the dubro exhaust deflector backwards long end to the muffler
you do not need to put a sweep in the tubing lines up perfect with bottom of Fus. 2 brackets bent up and screwed to body hold it fine just a very slight bend to clear elevator horn. I also use J and B weld as a cement to the exhaust on the OS 10 and a quick tie no slip or leaks here will post a pix but left my camera at our inlaws on Chistmas have to get back martin
finally a pix 10x4 wood topflite prop lots of pull only turning 8200 but quiet
will drop to a 9x4 to get the rpms up a bit but thing will fly fine on the 10 incher note I put the OS Max 10 conversion in
will bench the LA10 not quite right, there is a carb issue we had an exhaust leak it was running down the gear and over the wheel that is resolved now nice and dry

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thats a nice job extending the exhaust. but what will you do when the plane goes backwards!?!? haha. open a port on the front of the exhaust...??

i need to do one of these conversions for that SE5A from electrifly. perhaps i could find a bearcat about that size.
looks good. can't wait to find out how it flies.
tom

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Tommy boy I have the SE5 (WIP) a ap hornet 09 with a diesel head already installed along with tank really a nice aircraft have just finish the usual assembly now. It would be done but got side tracked on the mini tele martin

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flight report! Flight Report! FLIGHT REPORT!! :D

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I love long diesel exhaust pipes

Francis

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Francis the stagger wing bipe looks great what is it and what the power?? Martin
has to be one of the nicest I have seen

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The engine is the one you now have. I swapped to a TT .15 glow (mistake)

Francis

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This thread has been a lot of fun to follow, but the airplane is too big for my current taste. There is an electric Micro Telemaster with a 35.5 inch span, but that's still too big! What I'd want is a SubMicro Telemaster with a 28" to 30" span for my PAW 55 BR. You guys are making me feel like I'm kibitzing on a giant scale forum!

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Finally broke down and ordered the Micro Telemaster kit. I'll have the plans copied and make a couple of reductions to 85% and 80% as well to lay smaller components on and ponder. When I get some time to build the kit later in the semester I will figure out whether to use an .03 or an .049 depending on how the build weight numbers start adding up.