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Cyclic Hardover 09-19-2004 03:33 PM

AKM SU-27 Flanker-Does Look Good
 
You know, I've been putting in the effort looking for a decent sport scale propjet. Lack of Arfs will send you into the kits. The mere thought of a kit does not appeal to me. Not due to a lack of talent but just don't feel like it.

I was looking at the AKM SU-27 on their webpage, Looked good but again do not feel like doing a kit. So for the heck of it, I downloaded the assembly manual. Just looking at this with the laser cut parts and all sold me. I read somewhere that it took somebody 8 months to build it. Looks to me more like 8 days. Not really but looks like a no brainer here.

With a set of retracts and a healthy Jett .90 up front. Could be a mover.

Rudeboy 09-19-2004 04:43 PM

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I have been lurking at that plane for about a year... I don't think a month has passed without me visiting their site to take a look at the pics...

What I am still waiting for is for someone to report on the building and flying (preferably with a Jett 90L)...
I don't mind kits, and it looks like AK knows his stuff. As a matter of fact I prefer kits over ARF's. ARF's generally suck (or I am too critical), unless you get into the 1000+$ range.

Too many projects as it is... my winter is already booked... ah, well, maybe next year...

Cyclic Hardover 09-19-2004 05:50 PM

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I think I am going to go for it. I need this like a hole in the head but I'll stretch it out through the winter. If you haven't seen the assembly manual, download it and take a peak. That convinced me more than the plane.
I have two propjets. One with the Jett .50 and the other with the Jett 90L.
Dimensions look similar to the Cermark F-20. Looking at those laser cut pieces and plans tells me this is on the list of R/C's best kept secrets. You look at the plane and think it's going to be a pain but from what i saw, I don't think so.

At $124.00 for the kit, Just buy it and stick in the attic

bob27s 09-20-2004 08:22 AM

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I've been looking at that kit too.......... I even printed out their manual from the web site.

But lately I cant seem to even get my ARF's built in less than 2 months!!! ARGGGGGGGGGG

I thought the Jett 90L with the turbojett muffler might make a good package on the aft end. Maybe easier to configure than the longer pipe or muffler.

vicman 09-20-2004 09:17 AM

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Both of you guys my try going at it from plans it isn't as bad as it sounds. ;) I have a set of DC F-20 plans and have the cores for the wing burned out to try it out of foam. CH just buy the dang patriot and go to work already!:)

bob27s 09-20-2004 10:16 AM

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I have a DC F-20 kit sitting in the corner too. I just need to be laid off again or something.......... (wait...... I take that back!)

Flyboy Dave 09-20-2004 10:02 PM

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I bought one of those and threw it in the pile when they first came out.
The kit comes with a CD-Rom that follows along with the instruction
manual....you can zoom in on each picture, and see in the best detail
how each piece goes. :D

FBD.

EDIT:
Oops !!! I was thinking of the Mig-29. :eek: (that's what I get for thinking [sm=stupid.gif] )

Cyclic Hardover 09-20-2004 10:10 PM

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Well I went for it. Called him up. His name is Alex and he hails from Russia so gofigure on the Migs eh? He has othe rplanes in the design area and hopefully on the market within a year. The next one should be an F-16 prop jet. He told me his Flanker weighs in at a hair over 8lbs.

This suits me fine. That UltraSport I 'm now flying with the Jett .90 weighs 9 1/4 so it should be at least equally impressive but probably better. So this will be my winter project. I was telling him that i feel the Sport Scale Prop choices are not like they use to be and this may be a way to revive it.

vicman 09-21-2004 06:33 AM

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You also may try Angel and his Rifle. Not a bad looker for 150 bucks. I think that is arc?

Razor-RCU 09-21-2004 10:31 AM

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Yup the Rifle is ARC, I would say ask Airgar but since he bought a bike, he has disappeared!

Hey Angel, anything new?

James

AirGar 09-21-2004 03:01 PM

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ORIGINAL: Razor-RCU

Yup the Rifle is ARC, I would say ask Airgar but since he bought a bike, he has disappeared!

James
Disappeared? Who? Moi? ;)

Yes, it's true....I have been a little pre-occupied with another new "toy", but I do still "lurk" now and then. :D

It's funny, I was just in my hobby room this morning thinking I really need to git off my keyster and git flyin' again! That Rifle has been sitting in the same place for over 4 months, just gathering dust. I just recently charged/cycled all my gear so now I need to git started. It's tough when you have such nice riding weather like we do in Calif.

Good choice in kits, Cyclic, that plane looks fast sittin' still! Look forward to hearing your step by step opinions!

And yea, what a perfect candidate for the Jett 90!

One more thing.....I DO know, I'll have the Rifle finished BEFORE ol' FBD finishes his Mig! ;) LOL

Gary

vicman 09-21-2004 04:17 PM

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Hi Gar. I was wonderin if you would pipe in.:D Good to hear from you. I am looking forward to your report on the Rifle.

Cyclic Hardover 09-21-2004 05:27 PM

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Yu recall the stuffing of my F-20 a couple months ago. Well what was left went into this Ultra Sport that I got from a firned and rebuilt. What a mover. If yo have ever considered the Flanker, download the manual and that alone will seal the deal





ORIGINAL: AirGar


ORIGINAL: Razor-RCU

Yup the Rifle is ARC, I would say ask Airgar but since he bought a bike, he has disappeared!

James
Disappeared? Who? Moi? ;)

Yes, it's true....I have been a little pre-occupied with another new "toy", but I do still "lurk" now and then. :D

It's funny, I was just in my hobby room this morning thinking I really need to git off my keyster and git flyin' again! That Rifle has been sitting in the same place for over 4 months, just gathering dust. I just recently charged/cycled all my gear so now I need to git started. It's tough when you have such nice riding weather like we do in Calif.

Good choice in kits, Cyclic, that plane looks fast sittin' still! Look forward to hearing your step by step opinions!

And yea, what a perfect candidate for the Jett 90!

One more thing.....I DO know, I'll have the Rifle finished BEFORE ol' FBD finishes his Mig! ;) LOL

Gary

Cyclic Hardover 09-21-2004 05:31 PM

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So whats a Rifle? I missed that one. Where is it hiding

AirGar 09-21-2004 06:54 PM

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Yep, I do recall you stuffin' in the F-20....BUT, them Ultrasports fly almost as nice, eh? I loved the way mine flew, and I only had a Magnum 75 up front.

The "Rifle" is going to be a lot like the Magnum....., I'll snap a couple pics in a few, and post them here for ya.

Gary

Razor-RCU 09-21-2004 07:04 PM

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Gary how-goes-it?

Lemme know when the weather is good at El Mirage-

AirGar 09-21-2004 07:05 PM

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Wow, I actually remembered how to use my camera.....

AirGar 09-21-2004 07:12 PM

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Wow, guess it has been a while, I can't get the pics to load. Getting a msg. "error saving file to disk" when I try to "upload".

Will check the files/ext. and try again. Has anything changed with regard to uploading?

Gary

AirGar 09-21-2004 07:33 PM

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Hope this works....used Mozilla Firefox...

Netscape didn't work, don't have IE, and Netcaptor didn't work :eek:

Gary

Hey James, wassup Buddy? We're just starting to see the Santa Ana's here. Other than the winds you'd have to deal with, weather at the lake bed should be fine. Wear a chin strap on your hat, however.... LOL

Flyboy Dave 09-21-2004 08:01 PM

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Whoa....Gary....that Rifle looks like a dead-nut ringer for this K&B
Quickie 500 motor....see how the pipe tilts upwards in the rear. ?

Need some wheels on that puppy. :eek:

FBD. :)

Razor-RCU 09-21-2004 08:09 PM

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Looks good- Dave has his hot-rod, you have your bike, all I have are horses to feed so I keep on flying all year 'round! [X(] While wifey messes with the horses---

You know my airplanes do NOT need fuel when they are not being used- ;)

I got a couple more Patriots and a Fried Jett-50 I got taken on in the marketplace-

Cyclic Hardover 09-21-2004 09:55 PM

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That looks nice. Who sells those? Is it a belly lander?

vicman 09-21-2004 09:56 PM

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How bad did you get hurt on the motor you keep whining about and how much do you want for it?

Razor-RCU 09-21-2004 11:07 PM

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- < There is the line Vicman and here you are> (Vicman)

You crossed it! I don't whine, I complain in a girly voice- big difference...

I got it handled- Not for sale:)

AirGar 09-21-2004 11:13 PM

RE: AKM SU-27 Flanker-Does Look Good
 

ORIGINAL: Cyclic Hardover

That looks nice. Who sells those? Is it a belly lander?
Landing gear is optional. I already bought the gear and F3D wheels as I don't want to belly land it.

Do a search for "Angelrcdesign", he's the one that produces them. I paid $150 shipped, with fuel tank and some hardware. The only flaw I've had was, the grain on the vertical stab was going "vertical"....a No-No in my book. That's where I had stopped, as I needed to buy more balsa to build a new one. Other than that, a very well built speedster that should keep up with my Magnum!

Looking forward to the maiden....stay tuned boys......

Hey FBD, the "Rifle" is the plane. The motor I have sitting up front is the Jett 50. What'ja gonna do wit dat K&B? Huh? C'mon....you can tell us, we can keep a secret.... :D

Gary

Cyclic Hardover 09-29-2004 06:11 PM

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Well to get back on track here, "it" arrived today. The box was packaged very well. Laser cut parts and plans looked very good. Along with the ones I downloaded from the webpage I say we are off to a good start here..

Cyclic Hardover 09-29-2004 06:15 PM

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Well to get back on track, "it" arrived by FedEx today. Packaged very well with all laser cut parts and good plans and a canopy. Does look real good. Along with the great manual I downloaded from the web page, I think we are off to a good start here.

Rudeboy 09-29-2004 08:56 PM

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Keep us (me) posted...;)

angelrcdesign 09-29-2004 09:07 PM

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Hi Airgar

I didn't realize that I did that , Sorry, If you want I could send you a fin, how do you want the grain. Sometime I would glue two balsa fin or stab too make it stronger. you can e-mail me or call. I'll be home after 7:30pm.

Regards
Angel RC Design
Angel

Cyclic Hardover 10-07-2004 05:43 PM

RE: AKM SU-27 Flanker-Does Look Good
 
One good point is the retract installation. It's built for Spring Airs and all the plywood mounts are already pre-drilled.

One note here also is to pay very close attention as to how you position bulkheads F2, F3 and
F-4. Keep in mind this is a side mount engine and you will notice pre drilled holes in all three for the throttle linkage and its very easy to place them on the wrong side of the plane. From what I can tell, the blueprints are laid out as if the plane were being built upside down on the board at certain times. Frankly just triple check before you glue.

Cyclic Hardover 10-12-2004 04:17 PM

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Here is a photo opportunity of what has been assembled so far. Going together with out much problem however if anybody is going to start this kit, you may want to email me for a couple of helpful tips here.

Cyclic Hardover 10-22-2004 10:44 PM

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New photos, It's coming together rather well, no major complaints

chcarlos 10-23-2004 07:53 AM

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I've nearly purchased this kit a couple of times over the last year but have chickened out because there isn't much information about this plane anywhere. I like the looks and size of the plane; fact that its designed for retracts; and the plug-in wings. Thanks for sharing your build. Really looking forward to your flight report.

"Going together with out much problem however if anybody is going to start this kit, you may want to email me for a couple of helpful tips here." Maybe you can post your kit building tips here?

Cyclic Hardover 10-23-2004 09:02 AM

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The wing is not a concern. Go back to the first photo. Take a good look at the wing. It has a plywood tab sticking out which slides into the side of the fuselage and is then bolted down. Should be very solid.

Not only is it designed for Spring Airs but the holes for them are already cut. My guess the reason for not hearing much about them is the lack of propjets and on the market. The demand is their but the distributors are not listening. This guy has quite a line up here and more coming out. F-16 next year.

I was not sure at first but I downloaded that manual and it sold me. CD pictures are even better. That along with a pivot by here to help you out. It was definitely worth the price.

It's a winter project and I do not expect it in the air until spring but anybody can feel free to ask me about it.

Heres a shot from this morning. Sort of a "slapped" together verison to see how it looks

Cyclic Hardover 10-23-2004 11:23 AM

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Belly Shot

hiawathax2 12-04-2004 01:52 AM

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okay you sold me too! i have been sitting on the fence looking for my next propjet. I was going to try the new patriot xl but this looks much leaner and meaner! keep the pics coming. your info is appreciated.

THEGRINCMAN 12-04-2004 11:17 PM

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I bought my flanker last spring, I had a local club build it. I picked it up today and it looks great. I dont have any way of sending pics or I would. It seems to be tail heavy , if any body has any tips in balanceing or flying this plane , please let me know.

lear31A 12-04-2004 11:58 PM

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I had a thread on this somewhere here. I had mine built as well and man it flew great! Be sure to get as much throw as possible in the elevators. When they will travel straight up and down, add some more! Especially if it is nose heavy. On the first flights, use all runway available and let it come off on its on.I had radio failure and the airplane was put back into "kit form" on its 3rd or 4th flight. Good luck

Rudeboy 12-05-2004 01:35 AM

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ORIGINAL: THEGRINCMAN

It seems to be tail heavy , if any body has any tips in balanceing or flying this plane , please let me know.
Tail heavy...? From the looks of it I would say it would turn out nose heavy, if anything...
But like I said, from the looks of it... I don't have the kit at hand...

Cyclic Hardover 12-05-2004 09:11 AM

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Well you all saw where I am at on mine but the reason for possible tail heavy is "everything is in the very back end of the plane. Battery, servos, receiver. If I will need any nose weight , I will probably put it in the fuel tank compartment. A hatch is built for access



ORIGINAL: Rudeboy


ORIGINAL: THEGRINCMAN

It seems to be tail heavy , if any body has any tips in balanceing or flying this plane , please let me know.
Tail heavy...? From the looks of it I would say it would turn out nose heavy, if anything...
But like I said, from the looks of it... I don't have the kit at hand...


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