Engine for the Lanier Shrike 40?
 

Suggestions, please! :)

I currently have a Magnum XLS 46; Webra 50 GT; a MDS .61 FIRE; K&B .65 in my inventory as potential candidates. I'm open to other engines to purchase as well.

Thanks!

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On mine I've had OS 40, Tower .40 both with a pipe, the pipe didn't make it any faster, but it did help vertical performance. I've also had a K&B 45 on it, which was a real disappointment, I'd use the MDS .61 FIRE engine myself.

My Shrike has three tails I wanted to have rudder control, I don't know if you can see the third fin, but it's in the pile! Most guys never explore the Shrike's slow speed handling which is really great.

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Yes, I see the rudder. :D

I just remembered I also have a Super Tigre 51.

That's a nice pile of planes! [sm=thumbup.gif]

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To have really impressive speed, you need to put an engine in it that starts with the letters J-E-T-T ;)

The Shrike does have a thick chord to overcome (my Dust with the same engine as my Shrike 40 was markedly faster), thus a Jett .50 or Jett .60 LX would be ideal (if it doesn't break the wallet) :D

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MDS fire? Seriously? I was not aware they made one of those...

Shrike-10 with an OS-32SXor Jett BSE-35

or

Shrike-40 with a Jett-60LX.

Of the engines you have on hand, the Webra caught my eye first---

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Yes, I have read on here that the Dust is faster. That's okay. I do not need the fastest of the fast. Just fast enough for these old eyes. :D

Besides, (entirely subjectively) I think the Shrike is a better looking aircraft from an aesthetic point of view.

Razor, I will take a pic of that MDS FIRE .61 for you. I have heard that you gotta speak to it in Russion or it won't run. :)

A JETT huh? [sm=greedy.gif]

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The Shrike is better looking than the DD IMHO* I really prefer the Whip to both because it is "paintable".

M= Motor
D= Doesn't
S= Start

Good night folks!

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:D

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The Shrike is defintely easier to see in flight. Those large vertical stabilizers are easy to see at a distance. I remember when I first flew my Shrike, it made me feel that I was flying a mini-Hot Spot jet :D

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The Webra 50 - add either a Jett-Stream or Ultra-thrust to it... the engine will really come alive.

Next would be the Mag 46. Same thing - get a tuned exhaust for it, and it will run well.

Either of the above two engines with a 9x7 or 8.8x8.5 prop.

The ST 51 would work well too.

Skip the bigger engines you listed. The Shrike is a b_tch to balance even with a .40 on it.

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I have an older Jett Quickie motor that would make it go... PM if you're interested.

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Thanks Bob!

But........

What about in another thread, you mentioned shortening the firewall .250" - .375"? Just to satisfy my curiosity, would that work for a piped MDS .61? I mean, if guys are putting .46's on a Shrike 10, why not a 1.20 on a Shrike 40? :D J/K

Anyways, I was looking at a Rossi .40 on a pipe too. Local guy here is Rossi USA.

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The rossi 40 is a good option too. Pretty good value. In that case, consider moving the firewall back just a bit.

The MDS 61 is not much of an RPM engine. It runs well, and is a good engine, but I think they way it is designed its not the best engine of the list, for this particular job.

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The Rossi is a bit heavy as Bob eludes to above (Mini-tuned pipe is a solid option)... VERY powerful and runs happily on 0-5% nitro.

I am not familiar with the MDS but I would bet it generates its power at lower rpm's meaning you would need to prop it as such, and that much torque could be a problem on a small W/S bird.

I have never had an MDS or Shrike so maybe I should just shut up... :D

The Shrike ARF is on sale at Tower for $124-

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Yeah, the MDS is probably a pattern plane moteur. I have a poker in the fire right now, might be a good option. ;)

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"I got no car and it's breakin' my heart, but I found a driver and that's a start..." The Beatless

I got no plane and it's breakin' my heart, but I found a motor and that's a start..... :D

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We have .40 Shrikes here with MVVS .40, .50, OS .61 FIRE ducted fan motor, and one with a Tower .75. To be honest they all fly very well, none are as fast as a Dust or Magnum and the heavier motors were a ***** to balance. Of the choices the Webra gets my vote and as Bob said put a pipe on it. It'll be a pretty good daily speed plane....

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I've got a Jett Quickie a comin' for it now. :D

Maybe I will just swap motors like underwear. :)

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SA-WEEEEEET!

That should do the trick ;)

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Just looking at Lanier's website. This picture of the Shrike 40 definitely has an HP 40 Gold Cup in the nose. I wonder what the engine/muffler weighed?

http://www.lanierrc.com/lrcprivate/images/98233_lg.jpg

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I found the weight over on MECOA:

HP.40F SPECIFICATIONS
Engine Weight: 9.4 oz
Muffler Weight: 3.6 oz

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The HP gold cup 40 was a real nice, light-weight engine. About the same weight at the old K&B 40 8011 engines.

We use to cram those into the Hirobo Shuttle (old blue one) :)

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I've got the 40 Shrike in the build pile and a YS45 rear exhaust for it. Does anyone know what size screws it uses for the header pipe?
Thanks, MikeB

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The Webra 50. Like Bob said it comes out wicked nose heavy even with a 40. plan on installing battery and receiver as far back as possible.

One note when installing the verticl fins, make sure you leave the fuselage hatch off so that you can distinguish the top from bottom. Somebody I know left it on and glued the fins upside down:eek:

That guy noticed the goof about 15miutes into 30 minute epoxy and got lucky.:D

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ROFL, I thought only I did stupid stuff like that. [:@] I spent a long time getting exactly 2* right thrust in my Cload Dancer with a inverted OS 90, then turned the fuse over[:@], yep exactly 2* left thrust! It still flys great.

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My favorite is installing the fuel tank "right-side up" while working on the inverted model... [X(]

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ARF! [sm=thumbup.gif]

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I built a shrike 40 arf and I'm not impressed with it's performance. The engine is a webra 55 with a mac's tuned pipe mounted sidewinder style ( pipe under fuse to the right of the nose wheel). It's turning an APC 9x10 @ 17,000 on the ground and unloads well in the air on 15% wildcat fuel. Several things.One, the top speed is much less than expected guesstimated top speed about 135 mph(must be that landing gear drag, lots of wind noise on close passes).Two, the high speed stall is wicked with hard elevator (don't try this low!) Three, this thing want's to land hot, too slow it just drops out of the air. My favorite planes in order of combined factors of speed, handling and ease of use are #1 Diamond dust (standard) #2 Viper (some strength and incidence mods). #3 Diamond Dust (clipped wing).#4 Whiplash (heavy but rugged)#5 Force One. #6 Shrike 40 arf.

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Whoa! [X(]

That's plenty fast enough for me, son. :)

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Freakinfast- A 9x10 is a LOT of prop there... have you tried an APC 9x8 or 9x9?

The SHrike is draggy 135 is actually VERY good!

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Razor, yes I did, and the 9x9 is too small and can't hold the engine back ( sounds like a ducted fan screaming). The verdict from observers and myself was the plane was slower or the same but a lot more noise. It would seem that at high revs that the whole wing hits a resonance and starts to howl. Yes the prop is balanced and no it's not flutter. I've encountered this before with the Force One. On the Force this can be fun, you make a close pass and bank away so that you show it's belly to the spectators and you can feel the sound :D

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He said "the top speed is much less than expected guesstimated top speed about 135 mph" , to me that means it didn't go that fast.

I'd say lose the landing gear, but the airfoil is too thick to really go fast.

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I didn't phrase the sentence correctly. We thought it seemed well short of a previously radared 150mph viper, so we guesstimated the shrikes top speed to be about 135 mph.

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If I had to do it over again I would go with a TT or a OS AX 46 with a APC 9x7 for speed and a 9x8 for bearing life. I have 6 Evolution 46 NT's and the last 3 three have all had what I consider to be early bearing failure. The last three also have different main bearings(steel cages) than the first three (poly cages/better).I've since replaced them with Boca bearing #ENK-100SH. So I no longer recommend the Evo's to anyone. I don't think the extra speed of the webra 55 is worth the fuel consumption for this application.

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I do that quite a bit even when replacing tanks, I mark the tank with a marker to make sure its right after i stuff it in their.

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135 is fast to "almost" anybody.... IMHO

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I've decided to re-engine mine. Since my club has a noise restriction I need to try something a bit different. Bob gave me some good advice as always. You can see the thread [link=http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_4394938/tm.htm]here.[/link] This should be fun.:)

Kmot, of the coices you have listed I only have experience with the Magnum and the Webra. I'd have to say the Webra would be a great choice. Mine has seen a lot of use/abuse and still screams. It's a shame Webra quit making this one as it's a real lightweight powerhouse.
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freakingfast
I have the same plane with a OS .46 and a Jett pipe.I removed th l/g and put a coroplast skid plate on bottom.works awesome and is very fast imo.Just chiming in .
John

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I now have an engine! :D

Jett Quickie