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Old 04-05-2013, 04:50 AM
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Default motor Amps any one can clarify this for me

I purchased a mystery 2212/15 930 kv motor
I went to 3 different sites to look up the specs on the motor
my findings were different here they are
efficiency 12/60s
capacity 28/60s
peak 14/22 what can I really depend on when I check my amp draw at full throttle a static check with a 11x5 prop 3s 2200 lipo ?
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ORIGINAL: suzonka I purchased a mystery 2212/15 930 kv motor
I went to 3 different sites to look up the specs on the motor; my findings were different here they are:
efficiency 12/60s capacity 28/60s peak 14/22
what can I really depend on when I check my amp draw at full throttle a static check with a 11x5 prop 3s 2200 lipo ?



Hello suzonka: I can answer this.
These "Mystery 2212-15 930KV" motors they are ALL: SUPPO A2212 / 15 motors.
There are HUNDREDS and hundreds of these motors on eBay, for instance -every one is a SUPPO A2212 / 15 motor



For PROPER, RELIABLE specs: See: http://www.suppomodel.com/ and http://www.altitudehobbies.com/brush...-suppo-2212-15
The motor has a 2212 stator (i.e. 22mm diam, 12mm length); 15 Turns (15T);Weight 47g; 930KV; Diam 27.5mm, Length 30mm, (28-30-external size);
It is rated for 4 - 10 A; Max current of 12 A for 60s; 2-3 LiPo; Has a claimed Efficiency of 80%;
Suppo suggest a Prop of 10"x5" on 3S LiPo; and a Model weight: 300 - 800 g



From my measurements of similar 2213 motors (which have 2830 external dimension -same external size)
Using a 10x3.8 prop, on 3S LiPo, you can probably expect a peak current of ~14A to 17A and a Thrust of ~800g
Using a 11x3.8 prop, peak current of ~17A to 20A and Thrust of ~900g.
Your 11x5 prop will probably give at least 20A; May be best to use a 30A ESC ...



Hope this helps

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ORIGINAL: DrMotor



ORIGINAL: suzonka I purchased a mystery 2212/15 930 kv motor
I went to 3 different sites to look up the specs on the motor; my findings were different here they are:
efficiency 12/60s capacity 28/60s peak 14/22
what can I really depend on when I check my amp draw at full throttle a static check with a 11x5 prop 3s 2200 lipo ?



Hello suzonka: I can answer this.
These ''Mystery 2212-15 930KV'' motors they are ALL: SUPPO A2212 / 15 motors.
There are HUNDREDS and hundreds of these motors on eBay, for instance -every one is a SUPPO A2212 / 15 motor



For PROPER, RELIABLE specs: See: http://www.suppomodel.com/ and http://www.altitudehobbies.com/brush...-suppo-2212-15
The motor has a 2212 stator (i.e. 22mm diam, 12mm length); 15 Turns (15T); Weight 47g; 930KV; Diam 27.5mm, Length 30mm, (28-30-external size);
It is rated for 4 - 10 A; Max current of 12 A for 60s; 2-3 LiPo; Has a claimed Efficiency of 80%;
Suppo suggest a Prop of 10''x5'' on 3S LiPo; and a Model weight: 300 - 800 g



From my measurements of similar 2213 motors (which have 2830 external dimension -same external size)
Using a 10x3.8 prop, on 3S LiPo, you can probably expect a peak current of ~14A to 17A and a Thrust of ~800g
Using a 11x3.8 prop, peak current of ~17A to 20A and Thrust of ~900g.
Your 11x5 prop will probably give at least 20A; May be best to use a 30A ESC ...



Hope this helps

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thank YOU FOR THE INFORMATION,
I ran a static test with a digital amp meter in series with the Battery and ESC , using a GWES HD 11x5 propeller which is stiffer than a flexible slow flyer yet not stiff like an APC E
prop , at full throttle statically hand held , I got an amp draw reading of 11. amps , so if I wanted to probably use and APC E 10x5prop same sized it would pull more amps, or another GWS prop at maybe 12x6 HD size would also give me more thrust and more Amp draw. whats your opinion thanks again
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ORIGINAL: suzonka: static test: GWS HD 11x5; 11 amps; on 3S LiPo ? GWS HD is stiffer than a flexible slow flyer prop, yet not stiff like an APC E.
... if I wanted to use APC E 10x5 prop it would pull more amps ??; or another GWS prop at maybe 12x6 HD size would also give me more thrust and more Amp draw. whats your opinion thanks again



suzonka: I have tested some GWS HD props on small motors, see: http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_11463161/tm.htm
-and GWS HD props DO seem to draw less current and give more thrust, than say a GWS orange SF prop, or an APC SF prop.
Also see: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1584932



I would expect, that if you use an APC SF 11x5 prop, it would draw more current than the GWS HD.



I note that the Max current for this SUPPO A2212 / 15 motor is 12A;
-However, I have drawn 21A, 22A (for short periods) in 2830-size motors only rated for 16A max current; So you may be OK with a current larger than 12A for a short time.
TRY IT ! and tell us what you get ... BTW -was the 3S LiPo FULLY charged ...? Did it read 12.6V at first ...? (4.2V per cell, fully charged)

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ABOUT "MYSTERY" MOTORS: see: http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=11456017
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ORIGINAL: DrMotor



ORIGINAL: suzonka: static test: GWS HD 11x5; 11 amps; on 3S LiPo ? GWS HD is stiffer than a flexible slow flyer prop, yet not stiff like an APC E.
... if I wanted to use APC E 10x5 prop it would pull more amps ??; or another GWS prop at maybe 12x6 HD size would also give me more thrust and more Amp draw. whats your opinion thanks again



suzonka: I have tested some GWS HD props on small motors, see: http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_11463161/tm.htm
-and GWS HD props DO seem to draw less current and give more thrust, than say a GWS orange SF prop, or an APC SF prop.
Also see: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1584932



I would expect, that if you use an APC SF 11x5 prop, it would draw more current than the GWS HD.



I note that the Max current for this SUPPO A2212 / 15 motor is 12A;
-However, I have drawn 21A, 22A (for short periods) in 2830-size motors only rated for 16A max current; So you may be OK with a current larger than 12A for a short time.
TRY IT ! and tell us what you get ... BTW -was the 3S LiPo FULLY charged ...? Did it read 12.6V at first ...? (4.2V per cell, fully charged)

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My charger brought the 3S 30C 2200 Rhino battery lipo up to 4.1 per cell + 12.3 volts with the GWS HD prop 11x5 I test ran it in bursts for approximate 2 minutes ,the ending battery voltage was 3.9 per cell=11.7
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ABOUT ''MYSTERY'' MOTORS: see: http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=11456017
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Wow , thanks for the entire information on the mystery motors

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