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Old 12-21-2007 | 02:10 PM
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can someone tell me if I can put a brillelli 26 in a aeroworks 90.120.

How come the Aeroworks staff won't answer that question? Ask the manufactureer first...

Old 12-21-2007 | 05:59 PM
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Aeroworks probably won't know the size of the engine... they are in the plane business and can't keep up on every engine out there.

Scott posted this in the 26 SSR thread last night... this should help!

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Old 12-22-2007 | 02:02 PM
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OK, if sinergy can be jack ruddy I guess I can be exmember...
And since the question was asked about 26cc engine choices, sinergy/jack ruddy can't accuse me of injecting information about another well known brand of engine in every thread, check this out....NOT made in China.....


A Chung Yang 29cc stroker short block from DDM...
A Walbro carb....
An RC EXL ignition with a CM6 spark plug..
A single bolt hub made from 2024 aluminum with a Grade 8 5/16-24 prop bolt tapped for a spinner bolt..
A Mejzlik 16-8 prop that turns 9750 rpm on this engine with no muffler..
It weighs 2 lbs 12 oz as shown...
Kinda looks like something else in this forum, doesn't it ? Hmmmmm....
It can be sold for less than other engines in this class..Price and/or service war, anyone ???? The mount shown is just for testing, it can be quite a bit smaller....
Or for those who just gotta have standoffs, that's a possibility too.....Way smaller, not as rigid...
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Old 12-22-2007 | 02:34 PM
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What's a matter Ralph.. get lonely?
Why are all your numbers without mufflers?


ps. last time I read it, it said Jake
Old 12-22-2007 | 02:52 PM
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mowery1 - Re 26cc engines.... I've owned previous Brillelli versions, and know that his current one is getting very good reviews. His service is above reproach, and his support is as good.

You can read tons of posts about the Zenoah 26, in it's various flavors. Haven't owned one, so can't say.

Evolution and MVVS 26cc'ers are same-same - owned both - to get optimal power and smoothest performance you need a GOOD pipe/header setup. They ** suck ** on mufflers, whether Bisson or Evolution. BTDT.

BCMA is a re-worked SPE ; supposedly without the "SPE" problems. Have had one of those "SPE's. ** IT ** sucked, big time. Couldn't pull itself out a baggie, wouldn't turn a prop I'd bolt on a Yak, for sure.

Again, BCMA's version is getting good press. I know he replaces the carb and igntion, and those are the two things that suck the worst on the SPE.

The "PEAK" 26cc... I currently own the rear-intake. Ran like a REAL p.o.s. until a new ignition and new carb were fitted. Now, it's doing pretty well, turning an APC 17 x 8 around 7900 with it's stock muffler (a VERY loud wrap-around pitts sort of thing).

After all the playing with these that I've done, I'd suggest the Brillelli and the BCMA, in that order. You would be well-served to just "pass" on the others, particularly if you want that beautiful Aeroworks Yak to fly like one.
Old 12-22-2007 | 03:00 PM
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Bob, Is the Brillelli going to fit in the cowling without a lot of cutting.....I'm assuming the "peak" engine you're talking aobut is the Brillelli?? I'm wanting to get something on the way by Monday.... I'll check out the Brillelli online here in a minute....Thanks for you expertise in this area....Rick....There's nothing worse than buying the wrong thing and wish you had gottten something else.
Old 12-22-2007 | 03:04 PM
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Bob, Is the Brillelli going to fit in the cowling without a lot of cutting.....I'm assuming the "peak" engine you're talking aobut is the Brillelli?? I'm wanting to get something on the way by Monday.... I'll check out the Brillelli online here in a minute....Thanks for you expertise in this area....Rick....There's nothing worse than buying the wrong thing and wish you had gottten something else.
Brillelli's is NOT a "Peak" brand, or even parts from it. He buys the jugs, pistons, carbs, etc. machines and assembles the engines much like the rest of his product line. Very good stuff, in my experience. I've owned every other size engine he makes, except the 36cc, and still own a 366GT and love it.
In my book, you cannot go wrong with his stuff and his support.

"Peak" is a brand distributed by www.peakmodel.com
My experience with THOSE is significantly below minimally-satisfactory. Probably closer to "completely Sucks"....
Old 12-22-2007 | 03:17 PM
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mowery1: Check out the diagram above and maybe ask Mike East if he remembers the cowl size on that Yak.. lots sold some will know the cowl size.

With it being a side carb it's going to stick out aways so you have to decide how important looks are to you. In the small planes gas engines are hard to hide... this is why the Evolution shines, front mounted carb like a glow.
Old 12-22-2007 | 03:20 PM
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Hey, I think that is the wrong address for peak models...check it out!!
Old 12-22-2007 | 03:25 PM
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haha that should be www.peakmodel.com
Old 12-22-2007 | 03:32 PM
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That peak engine looks pretty good for $239.00 including pitts style muffler.... Bob..you have one of these??? Does it run pretty good and easy to start.....NP so far??
Old 12-22-2007 | 03:41 PM
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That's the current one that I have, quoted the performance above. Out of the box, needed a new ignition and carb. Provided after postings here, and several emails to Peakmodel to get them on the ball. Now runs fine, but takes a LONG break in. Price-wise, it can't be beat. Performance and user-friendly it ain't.

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Old 12-22-2007 | 09:17 PM
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After reading the post from everyone here and on the Brillelli thread, I leaning toward the Brillelli...Thanks for the input!! I appreciate it!! Rick
Old 12-30-2007 | 04:35 PM
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I have a Brillelli 36GT and it's a great motor.
I also have a CRRC Pro GF26I.
It turns a Xoar 18 X 6 @ 7650 rpm and idles @1850 rpm. Never quits. Runs great, strong, and smooth.
Only complaint is the 1st start of the day is on the hard side, after that a 15-30 minute break, 2 flips with choke ( pop ) and two flips no choke and it's running.
I have just been using a starter for the 1st of the day starts and everything else by hand.
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With it being a side carb it's going to stick out aways so you have to decide how important looks are to you. In the small planes gas engines are hard to hide... this is why the Evolution shines, front mounted carb like a glow.
It is possible to buy a intake manifold that turns the carb towards the rear. This adapter is made for Zenoah engines...but a person can make one up himself. I am going to make a couple for engines I own and see how they work. Capt,n
Old 12-31-2007 | 02:16 PM
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I know a few people have done that before. I don't see why it would not work. It would make it narrower, but not by much. You may save 1/4" at the most.
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Hey Guys...Have a Happy New Year....Gotta go wife says!!! Capt,n
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Yes there are

You have the Evo 26cc (Yes there actually is a company called Evo Engines or something like that)and then the Evolution 26cc from Horizon (which is probably the one you are thinking about)

You have 3W and Brellelli (not sure that is spelled correctly) as well

Also check out http://www.rcshowcase.com They sell Roto, ZDZ and I'm pretty sure they both have something in your size
Hello Buba Gates: I see you jumped right in with advice and shortcuts to only THREE 26cc engines. I say if you going to do that ....give the same attention to other and all 26cc engine brands that you know of, OR do not promote at all. You as a moderator, have a duty to do. The most 2 important things is being completely fair when it comes to promoting or whatever you want to call it. The other is STOP the silly comments by ALL the people that have posted here right away. Not just the one or ones you already banned. In other words please ..if you are going to control this forum...do it right. Lets have a Happy New Year. Capt,n
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Hey, Capn'John....... Happy Freakin' New Year to YOU.....but a couple things...
ONE - bubbagates is probably one of the best mods around
TWO - mods are NOT required to uphold some bizarre standard of fairness that YOU define on providing advice. Just like anyone else, they are permitted to share their opinions. Just like you are so free to share all of yours.
THREE - if you don't like the way a thread is running, report it. There is NO need to post such an inflammatory commentary as yours on a thread, unless, of course, your personal agenda is to disrupt and terminate threads when they don't support YOUR agenda.

You are WAY outta line..... but have a Happy Freakin' New Year yourself.....


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Yes there are

You have the Evo 26cc (Yes there actually is a company called Evo Engines or something like that)and then the Evolution 26cc from Horizon (which is probably the one you are thinking about)

You have 3W and Brellelli (not sure that is spelled correctly) as well

Also check out http://www.rcshowcase.com They sell Roto, ZDZ and I'm pretty sure they both have something in your size
Hello Buba Gates: I see you jumped right in with advice and shortcuts to only THREE 26cc engines. I say if you going to do that ....give the same attention to other and all 26cc engine brands that you know of, OR do not promote at all. You as a moderator, have a duty to do. The most 2 important things is being completely fair when it comes to promoting or whatever you want to call it. The other is STOP the silly comments by ALL the people that have posted here right away. Not just the one or ones you already banned. In other words please ..if you are going to control this forum...do it right. Lets have a Happy New Year. Capt,n
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WOW !!!....captinjohn, are you actually miffed because bubbagates only
offered help with three engines ? Would you have preferred that he give full reviews on
every 26cc engine on the Planet in three sentences ?

I know you didn't mean it, right ? Take it easy on the "doubles" tonight....

....and Happy New Years to you as well.

FBD.
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Bob...lets not start this way out line stuff. You are not a moderator. People look up to a moderator and most take there words in such that, the engine brand he promotes are the only good ones. We need fairness as much as possible. I think its about time you (and all us us)try to promote peace and good well to all fellow brothers. 2008 is coming up...lets make it a good one Best Regards Capt,n
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blah, blah, blah.... I'm posting my opinion on your comment. I don't have to be a moderator to do that.
Your opinion is yours, mine is mine, and I don't care about yours.
So what?

Back off bubbagates - you are out of line to call him out on such a ridiculous item....
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WOW !!!....captinjohn, are you actually miffed because bubbagates only
offered help with three engines ? Would you have preferred that he give full reviews on
every 26cc engine on the Planet in three sentences ?

I know you didn't mean it, right ? Take it easy on the "doubles" tonight....

....and Happy New Years to you as well.

FBD.
I do not know what " miffed" means but I think you very well know what I meant. Bubba being a moderator and reads every hing knows more brands than the 3 he mentioned. Mostly I am just trying to get everyone to treat others as they would like to be treated. In no way did I ask the full reviews of all engines. Just mention most of the brands. Seems pretty easy to do. Anyone could have a list of brands and past it in a second. Happy New Years Again Capt,n
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[quote]ORIGINAL: Bob Pastorello

blah, blah, blah.... I'm posting my opinion on your comment. I don't have to be a moderator to do that.
Your opinion is yours, mine is mine, and I don't care about yours.
So what?


Bob...Thats the trouble with you...you need to care about others...and others opinoins. Its only right. Capt,n
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OK, it's time I respond to all of this

First, I will post what I think is good info to try to help out when I can and I usually only post on things I have direct experience with. Hence the the ones I did not link to. Now as far as the ones I did link to I had plans to do the rest but other things came into play and I was never able to get back to it and until these last few post, I had completely forgotten about it. I guess I am not as perfect as most people on here, but I never pretended to be and a simple look back at my posting history will easily show that. I did not know the links to the others off the top of my head I do for ZDZ and Roto because they are close to me. Do I use them not any more, I had a Roto for my first gas engine so I do not feel like I am qualified to say much else, I have no ZDZ expereince short of tuning a few of them, I have loads of expereince on both the EVO and Evolution engines as well as 3W, DA, Zenoah and loads of other small 2 and 4 stroke engines, both what we use up to 2500hp drag engines.

Second, as a moderator and in defense of the other moderators, we are allowed as much as any member to post our views and comments as long as they are within the rules. Yes, we have specific guidelines that go beyond the normal set of rules but those guidelines allow us to post our views as well. Yes I agree as moderators we tend to be looked upon in a higher light and as far as I am concerned I could care less if that is how I am looked upon and in all honesty I would not prefer it that way. To me post count, status and all of those things are transparent in a way that unfortunately tends to make one think of someone better than they are.

third, posts that are directly attacking another member are way out of line, no matter if that post is directed at a mod or not. I could have easily just dumped the post as it is far from being even remotely close to being within the rules BUT that would have given the impression of me being one sided so I left it alone and the results are starting to show themselves. Since this was all directed at me, I will still moderate this thread as I always have but these last few posts I will leave to another mod to do with as they please. The real problem is if the thread/posts get removed it could easily be perceived as someone being one sided as I suspect it will be.

Now I could easily come back and debate what has been posted in public but I am not going to do that, so let's take it offline into the PM system and let the thread get back to where it should be



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