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Old 02-15-2013, 06:54 AM
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I sent the engine this morning to JTEC and it will be in there hands Tuesday if you want to call them.
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Old 02-15-2013, 07:02 AM
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Cool I need 2 for my hanger9 b-25 of corse if they have it ill call Tuesday thanks so much remember Monday is a federal Holliday  so for sure on wensday I sent al pics of my neccells  with the 10 cc on it.
Old 02-15-2013, 07:23 AM
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do you think the pitts will hurt the performance?
Old 02-15-2013, 07:29 AM
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Default RE: New Evolution 10cc gas engine

Where can I get and where is the source for the fuel filter supplied with this engine?


FWIW, my flying experience shows this engine is equal to or more powerful than the OS46AX.


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Old 02-15-2013, 07:53 AM
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Hi Jerry,

We have the two filters now in our warehouse and should be available to ship shortly. EVOA105 (inline) and EVOA106 (felt clunk).

Thanks,
Jimmy

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Where can I get and where is the source for the fuel filter supplied with this engine?


FWIW, my flying experience shows this engine is equal to or more powerful than the OS46AX.


Jerry
Old 02-15-2013, 07:57 AM
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I Can't really say how much power it has,cause all ive done is bench runs..i hope its stronger than the os 46ax..i have a stinger ii with os 46fx..my guess its 5.5 to 6 lbs and it pulls it good..i'm putting the evo 10 on hanger 9 katana and it weighs 3.5 empty hope to get it in at 6.5...maybe ...hope i'm not dissappointed with the engine..
Old 02-15-2013, 11:45 AM
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I have found the supplied fuel tubing doesnt flex enough . I was going to use a 6oz tank but the clunk wouldnt get anywhere near touching the bottom . Its slightly better with a 8oz tank but if I go upside down with anything under 1/2 a tank of fuel its going to suck air . Is there a heavy felt clunk or another way around this prob. I know of the tanks with the swinging brass clunk and lines that dont use any tubing on the inside but there pretty pricey here in Aus. plus theres no felt clunk on the end .There called roto flow tanks and the smallest size is 10 oz which is a bit big for my plane . Any ideas ? Cheers the pope
Old 02-15-2013, 12:26 PM
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wonder if you modify an original clunck by cutting the nipple off of it and drilling it out so that it would slide over your hose and use it for a weight and then put your fliter on the end...just a thought

Old 02-15-2013, 12:41 PM
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Default RE: New Evolution 10cc gas engine

Ok here a good question can I run just one 6.6 life battery why harness it to each switch on off that is  instead of having 2 batts independent one for servos an one for egnition
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Default RE: New Evolution 10cc gas engine

Or will I get feed back from my ignition into my rx an servos
Old 02-15-2013, 12:59 PM
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i'm a glow guy myself...but you can do research on the ibec...i'm gonna try two 1300mah life batteries which will be like one nimh far as weight......they make a 700 mah life i think..i'm not for sure how much the ignition will pull...
Old 02-15-2013, 01:25 PM
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You'll be fine running the 2 switches from one battery. The guys running the bigger gassers (20-30cc) do that frequently. That setup run from a single LiFe becoming more and more common place? I've been running that way (without an IBEC, Rcexl opti switch only) for the last 3 seasons....
Old 02-15-2013, 01:32 PM
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The ignition draws anywhere from 250-450 mAh depending on the usage, but it averages around 200-300.  I would suggest using a minimum of 600 mAh pack.  The question of using one battery for both ignition and Rx has been addressed previously in this thread, but as a general rule Horizon does not support this method.  There are a lot of guys using an ibec to isolate the Rx from the ignition so they can use one battery but it is at your own discretion, and we recommend 2 batteries.

Pope,
I would suggest you use the supplied fuel line and filter in an 8 oz tank.  We have a lot of time using that exact setup and there have been no issues with fuel draw/pickup after MANY hours of flying.  The supplied setup will drain the entire tank without a problem.  Don't take my word for it though, maybe others can verify in their setups as there's been many people reporting flying.

Hope this helps guys.

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Old 02-15-2013, 01:44 PM
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Default RE: New Evolution 10cc gas engine

Thanks so much for now I'm going too run 2 nicd batts till we get more feed back over time. Thanks so much
Old 02-15-2013, 04:06 PM
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rub it in Capt. J R/L
Old 02-15-2013, 04:21 PM
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ORIGINAL: jspauld2

The ignition draws anywhere from 250-450 mAh depending on the usage, but it averages around 200-300. I would suggest using a minimum of 600 mAh pack. The question of using one battery for both ignition and Rx has been addressed previously in this thread, but as a general rule Horizon does not support this method. There are a lot of guys using an ibec to isolate the Rx from the ignition so they can use one battery but it is at your own discretion, and we recommend 2 batteries.

Pope,
I would suggest you use the supplied fuel line and filter in an 8 oz tank. We have a lot of time using that exact setup and there have been no issues with fuel draw/pickup after MANY hours of flying. The supplied setup will drain the entire tank without a problem. Don't take my word for it though, maybe others can verify in their setups as there's been many people reporting flying.

Hope this helps guys.

Jimmy
Thanks for your reply Jimmy . I am using the supplied tubing and to even get it to reach the bottom of the tank I have to twist the tubing so that the arc that it has from being rolled up in the box points down otherwise it wouldnt even touch the tank floor . Does the tubing get more flexible with age ? I was under the impression that gasser fuel tube gets stiffer with age . If I used a 6oz tank it would stick straight out like my pecker in the morning . Cheers from the pope
Old 02-15-2013, 05:14 PM
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When emptying a gas fuel tank with felt filter/klunk one can note a fairly long period where the fuel pump draws a mixture of air and fuel. It is my opinion that the small consumption of gas thus tolerates a felt klunk that does not stay immersed, but rather wicks fuel to the felt where it is gets drawn to supply the engine. While running, the added vibration is constantly splashing the felt klunk and keeping it wet with fuel.

I've never experienced a fuel supply problem with a gas engine when using a felt klunk.
Old 02-15-2013, 06:52 PM
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Default RE: New Evolution 10cc gas engine

O.K. I'll suck it and see . It just seems to go against everything compared to glow which I know it isnt . Even if I have to do any upside down flying early on in the flight and then stay level I can live wit dat . Maybe as the clunk gets wet it weighs more so ithat may help the cause . Thanks for all your replies . Cheers the pope
Old 02-15-2013, 08:58 PM
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i done some more heat cycling on the engine tonight...running it at different rpms and keeping a check on temp...from what i can tell compared to my os 46 fx,its definitly stronger than it ,but i don't know if the 12" blade is gonna be the preferred blade for me...the 11" seems really good..i tried the 12" and it really cuts its back...maybe after some more break in it'll do a lot better...gone through about a half of gallon on gas..me personally i like two strokes to have good rpms and don't worry about what blade size long as it works well...2 strokes are for sport flying and the four strokes are 3d....just my opinion.....
Old 02-16-2013, 01:25 AM
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Here is one possiblity for using one battery for ignition and the servo's. I use a 6.6 LIFE with it. You can regulate the voltage to 6v for the ignition.

https://www.troybuiltmodels.com/items/WRCIBEFV2.1.html

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Old 02-16-2013, 05:07 AM
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Geez, I suppose if you were concerned about filtering any potential RF issues? There's really no need to be concerned about regulating the voltage when running a module rated at 8.4v. If your receiver can handle your battery, your ign. module can as well?

I'm all for the opti switch plan, but you can do that using an RCEXL switch (made by the same RCEXL that makes many/most of the ign. modules we're using), with a street price of 20.00 or less?

Regarding filtering, worry if you like, but there are an awfull lot of us on 2.4 that have been running that RCEXL switch on the bigger engines, without issue, for years now?

Just pointing out that 50.00 may be purchasing insurance that's really not necessary. If it makes you sleep better, sure, go for it!
Old 02-16-2013, 08:23 AM
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Pope,
You are correct in that Tygon does get harder over time and actually get so stiff you need to replace it. Viton actually doesn't get harder when soaking in fuel, so it will get softer and more flexible as the weight of the clunk and flying causes it to flex more.
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Old 02-16-2013, 10:01 AM
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Default RE: New Evolution 10cc gas engine

Isn't that one reason why gas flyers usually don't worry about emptying the fuel tank after flying?

T-man49 in Al
Old 02-16-2013, 10:53 AM
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Default RE: New Evolution 10cc gas engine

That and concern about the difficulty of priming the carb's fuel pump after running it dry!
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Default RE: New Evolution 10cc gas engine

wow the vibration is off the charts


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