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Old 09-14-2017, 11:57 PM
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Question Coleman Fuel in Gas engines?

Has anyone ever used Coleman (camping) white gas fuel in large gas RC engines?
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Yes, it's also called white gas. Runs fine if you want to pay extra. You can also use 100LL from the local airport or ethanol-free pump gas if it's available.
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Yes some do .
I have found Avgas 100LL to work well for me in both small and large gassers. It doesn't dry up the carb diaphragms and lines like pump gas does. Some say it leaves heavier deposits on the plugs but I have a 10cc with over 14 gallons of fuel through it and the original plug failed at around 13 gallons.
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Its been done, it doesn't stink like gas and it doesn't make the power of gas.

I just use ethanol free but we have so many boats around here I can get it all over including a station a block from our field.
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If the smell of gas exhaust bothers you, use Klotz oil. It gives a sweet perfumy exhaust smell. But it doesn't eliminate the smell of unburnt gas though.
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The currently available Coleman camp fuel is not actually gasoline like it once was long ago. It is now comprised of mostly or wholly heavy naphtha aka mineral spirits, lighter fluid, etc. It has a low octane rating, so using it in higher compressed engines may cause knocking. It doesn't have the energy content that gasoline does either, so power will be reduced some and ignition timing may need to be adjusted. Add to that the cost is highly prohibitive as well. if one insists on using that type of fuel, you could save yourself some money and get a jug of "odorless" mineral spirits from a home improvement store. If it smells like zippo lighter fluid, it's the right stuff.

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Old 09-15-2017, 11:45 AM
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In few words; Don't use it! You will hear of people that do, or have. I strongly recommend against doing so. This subject comes up from time to time...

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A good friend has some sort of reaction to gas not sure if its the smell or what but I have tuned several gas motors to run on white gas (Colman fuel) without any problems what so ever. Including his newer G62. Here is a video of one of his running without any problems.

Running a G38 on a 18X8 prop on white gas (Coleman Camp Fuel) at 32 to 1 Amsoil Saber Professional Synthetic oil.

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Question confused

Now I am REALLY confused. I was anticipating a Yes or a No. How many are currently using it, and at what ratio? 30-1?
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Confused?
You have (2) yes and (6)no answers.
The oil to gas ratio would depend on the engine.
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I have a close friend whos wife is reactive to gas vapors . He used Coleman fuel to get away from the vapor issue .
He constantly had overheating issues in all the planes and helicopters.
He kept breaking crankshafts and burning pistons until he finally gave into my advise to use avgas .
Since using avgas he has had no more overheating issues , no more broken engines of any kind and the engines start easier and stay in tune .
My advice is Don't Use Coleman fuel for your planes and helicopters.
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White gas (the REAL stuff) would work fine. But it hasn't been made for decades. It was replaced with a less flammable alternative - naphtha - as I mentioned before. Unless your Coleman camp fuel is 30+ years old, it's NOT gasoline and shouldn't be used. If you don't like gas fumes, put a Walbro 499 carb on your engine and run it on methanol. Methanol is far cheaper than Coleman fuel.
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I don't think you will find an engine manufacturer anywhere in the world that recommends less than 87 octane fuel. Coleman Camp Fuel has an octane of around 50.

I have used Coleman Fuel as an after run/storage fuel. Even with a just a short, quick ground run, my engines ran much hotter.

As I said, you will find people using it, but I certainly don't recommend it. Whatever your issue with standard gasoline, the only safe and viable alternatives are to search out alcohol free standard gasoline, use 100LL avgas, or convert to methanol.

As an aside, I found while using Coleman Fuel strictly as an after run /storage fuel to keep my carb and fuel systems wet but alcohol free, that after about two months time, the Coleman Fuel that had been mixed with oil would not run an engine at all, or sometimes would run, but severely misfire.

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Bullwangers four engins some running for over four years not one problem you must be doing something awful wrong
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Use Ethanol free 91 octane instead. Naptha is an additive used to reduce octane at certain times of the year, along with Benzine. The only time I smell gas is when I forget to plug the vent line, or spill some.
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That's what I have been doing since the start of this year. The engines seem to like it.
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[QUOTE) /"Bullwangers four engins some running for over four years not one problem you must be doing something awful wrong [/QUOTE]

I thought I was wrong one time, but I was misteakan.

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Old 09-20-2017, 01:14 PM
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Lasts longer too. It took me 2 years to go through a gallon of 20:1 for my little Saito FG-11. 8 ounces an hour goes a LONG way!

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